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Index of Subjects --_000_BL0PR02MB47698288BAC1D6185CEC548789AF0BL0PR02MB4769namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crown land travel is not restricted. I confirmed this with the Waverley off= ice. Thanks. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha= lf of John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:07:13 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] RE: Common sense and caution You're raising good points, as usual, Bev. RE: " Yet I've heard from a few that the public is not to be permitted int= o Crown Land forests due to Covid. Can anyone confirm that for me?" That's the first I've heard, and not that I know if. Thought it was just p= arks that were closed off, but stand to be corrected. Seems to me, the issue is the risk of overly crowded conditions (large numb= ers of folks not observing appropriate distancing) that led to the ban, and= yes, they have understandably erred on the side of caution. It may be a g= ood time to introduce more flexibility into that ruling. It's too bad, bec= ause the main targets, seems to me, should be public spaces near major popu= lation centres. Out in the sticks, risk of crowding is much smaller. Taking the car for a drive is a similar situation. I've heard that it=92s = good for the car to give it a bit of a run once a week. With due respect f= or the advice not to go joyriding, I also take my 93-year-old mother out f= or the drive. We keep it short, to minimize risk of exposure, but a change= of scene is good for the mental health, particularly at that age, so is it= a necessity or not? Given the risk of exposure to the bug (vanishingly sm= all) and the plusses, well ... it hasn=92t been outlawed and under the circ= umstances, makes enormous sense. There are disadvantages to living in cities =85 -----Original Message----- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] = On Behalf Of Bev Wigney Sent: April 26, 2020 11:02 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Common sense and caution All, I've been reading all of these back and forth and tried to restrain myself from commenting, but find myself compelled to speak up. Surely these must indeed be "end times" when I find myself in almost mutual agreement with David W. on a certain topic. (ha!) I do have serious concerns if this ban on outdoor walking along public trails or other suitable public spaces continues for very long. Some of these decisions are being made at the provincial and others at the municipal level. While I can well understand closing provincial or certain other parks where people were congregating or using shared facilities such as picnic tables, park benches or washrooms, or where they were traveling to, and/or mobbing certain popular locations, I think things have probably gone too far. Before I continue, I should mention that I'm one of the "lucky ones" who has a couple of acres of wooded property with river frontage and have only left my place twice in all of 6 weeks -- so I'm not actually much effected by all of these closures. However, I do have serious concerns about how all of these closures will effect many people. I belong to a "caremongers" group and know that a number of people are having a really difficult time handling the stress - some having stressful family situations such as caring for elderly parents, etc... and wanting to go for a walk along the French Basin Trail to relax (it's now closed). There has been some tension over restrictions against walking on public trails in my area and while I haven't joined in on the protests, I certainly understand how many people are feeling. I believe there are plenty of ways in which certain areas could have been kept open for use - those that people can walk or bike to access. The one-way direction is certainly the easiest solution. Limiting access will not be good for many people -- their bodies or their minds - if this continues for very long. I have only to think back to 3 years ago when I spent an entire year in urban Ottawa caring for my mother through her terminal illness. I was pretty much limited to walking my dogs on the roadside within sight of her house - largely due to having no relief caregiver, but also due to lack of any green space close by. Between the incredible stress of caring for her through treatments and hospitalizations, combined with the inability to spend even a half hour in some open place with some greenery in which to stretch my legs and eyes, I was just about ready to go out of my mind after even 4 weeks -- but it went on and on for over a year and certainly took its toll on my physical and emotional health. Let's hope that the powers that be have some workable plan in place for "what happens next" if people can't start spending some time outdoors very soon - and I don't mean just walking a loop on the streets of towns and cities. Quite frankly, closing the Harvest Moon Trail to walkers (at least along large stretches if not entirety), strikes me as unnecessary. It's a very wide trail where physical distancing is easy. So, now we have no walkers, but the ATVs are still blasting back and forth along it as though all is well with the world. I should know -- the trail goes right along the back of my property and the engine noise hasn't abated whatsoever. Further, as we have recently learned, almost all biology field work has been shut down for this year, even when physical distancing is possible. This will eliminate all kinds of data collection and also valuable work experience for university students. Again, there is little danger in such situations if precautions are being taken. Why shut down such worthwhile programs while, at the same time, it appears that forestry work is going ahead the same as usual judging by all of the heavy road-building equipment and forestry machinery that went roaring along Hwy 201 yesterday. I just checked and the spring road weight restrictions will be off as of tonight in most NS counties, so no doubt, everyone is getting prepared to tear into the forests tomorrow. Yet I've heard from a few that the public is not to be permitted into Crown Land forests due to Covid. Can anyone confirm that for me? We are told that many of these restrictions are in place in the event that we have an accident and require medical assistance or rescue. Truly, how many walkers are in need of rescue? It is far more likely that it will be ATVs and forestry crews who would be in need of rescue or medical assistance than someone walking on a quiet trail. Bev Round Hill --_000_BL0PR02MB47698288BAC1D6185CEC548789AF0BL0PR02MB4769namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body> <div> <div> <div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Crown land travel is not restricted. I confi= rmed this with the Waverley office. Thanks. </div> </div> <div><br> </div> <div class=3D"ms-outlook-ios-signature">Get <a href=3D"https://aka.ms/o0uke= f">Outlook for iOS</a></div> </div> <hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" st= yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> naturens-owner@chebuc= to.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of John and Nhung = <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca><br> <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:07:13 PM<br> <b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca><br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [NatureNS] RE: Common sense and caution</font> <div> </div> </div> <div class=3D"BodyFragment"><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;= "> <div class=3D"PlainText">You're raising good points, as usual, Bev. <= br> <br> RE: " Yet I've heard from a few that the public is not to be per= mitted into Crown Land forests due to Covid. Can anyone confirm that = for me?"<br> <br> That's the first I've heard, and not that I know if. Thought it was j= ust parks that were closed off, but stand to be corrected. <br> <br> Seems to me, the issue is the risk of overly crowded conditions (large numb= ers of folks not observing appropriate distancing) that led to the ban, and= yes, they have understandably erred on the side of caution. It may b= e a good time to introduce more flexibility into that ruling. It's too bad, because the main targets, seems to m= e, should be public spaces near major population centres. Out in the = sticks, risk of crowding is much smaller.<br> <br> Taking the car for a drive is a similar situation. I've heard that it= =92s good for the car to give it a bit of a run once a week. With due= respect for the advice not to go joyriding, I also take my 93-year-o= ld mother out for the drive. We keep it short, to minimize risk of exposure, but a change of scene is good for the mental he= alth, particularly at that age, so is it a necessity or not? Given th= e risk of exposure to the bug (vanishingly small) and the plusses, well ...= it hasn=92t been outlawed and under the circumstances, makes enormous sense.<br> <br> There are disadvantages to living in cities =85<br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebu= cto.ns.ca">mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] On Behalf Of Bev Wigne= y<br> Sent: April 26, 2020 11:02 AM<br> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Common sense and caution<br> <br> All,<br> <br> I've been reading all of these back and forth and tried to restrain<br> myself from commenting, but find myself compelled to speak up. Surely= <br> these must indeed be "end times" when I find myself in almost mut= ual<br> agreement with David W. on a certain topic. (ha!)<br> <br> I do have serious concerns if this ban on outdoor walking along public<br> trails or other suitable public spaces continues for very long. Some<= br> of these decisions are being made at the provincial and others at the<br> municipal level. While I can well understand closing prov= incial or<br> certain other parks where people were congregating or using shared<br> facilities such as picnic tables, park benches or washrooms, or where<br> they were traveling to, and/or mobbing certain popular locations, I<br> think things have probably gone too far. Before I continue, I should<= br> mention that I'm one of the "lucky ones" who has a couple of acre= s of<br> wooded property with river frontage and have only left my place twice<br> in all of 6 weeks -- so I'm not actually much effected by all of these<br> closures. However, I do have serious concerns about how all of these<= br> closures will effect many people. I belong to a "caremongers&quo= t; group<br> and know that a number of people are having a really difficult time<br> handling the stress - some having stressful family situations such as<br> caring for elderly parents, etc... and wanting to go for a walk along<br> the French Basin Trail to relax (it's now closed). There = has been<br> some tension over restrictions against walking on public trails in my<br> area and while I haven't joined in on the protests, I certainly<br> understand how many people are feeling.<br> <br> I believe there are plenty of ways in which certain areas could have<br> been kept open for use - those that people can walk or bike to access.<br> The one-way direction is certainly the easiest solution. Limiting<br> access will not be good for many people -- their bodies or their minds<br> - if this continues for very long. I have only to think back to 3<br> years ago when I spent an entire year in urban Ottawa caring for my<br> mother through her terminal illness. I was pretty much limited to<br> walking my dogs on the roadside within sight of her house - largely<br> due to having no relief caregiver, but also due to lack of any green<br> space close by. Between the incredible stress of caring for her<br> through treatments and hospitalizations, combined with the inability<br> to spend even a half hour in some open place with some greenery in<br> which to stretch my legs and eyes, I was just about ready to go out of<br> my mind after even 4 weeks -- but it went on and on for over a year<br> and certainly took its toll on my physical and emotional health.<br> Let's hope that the powers that be have some workable plan in place<br> for "what happens next" if people can't start spending some time<= br> outdoors very soon - and I don't mean just walking a loop on the<br> streets of towns and cities. Quite frankly, closing the Harvest Moon<= br> Trail to walkers (at least along large stretches if not entirety),<br> strikes me as unnecessary. It's a very wide trail where physica= l<br> distancing is easy. So, now we have no walkers, but the ATVs are still<br> blasting back and forth along it as though all is well with the world.<br> I should know -- the trail goes right along the back of my property<br> and the engine noise hasn't abated whatsoever.<br> <br> Further, as we have recently learned, almost all biology field work<b= r> has been shut down for this year, even when physical distancing is<br> possible. This will eliminate all kinds of data collection and also<b= r> valuable work experience for university students. Again, there is<br> little danger in such situations if precautions are being taken. Why<= br> shut down such worthwhile programs while, at the same time, it appears<br> that forestry work is going ahead the same as usual judging by all of<br> the heavy road-building equipment and forestry machinery that went<br> roaring along Hwy 201 yesterday. I just checked and the spring road<b= r> weight restrictions will be off as of tonight in most NS counties, so<br> no doubt, everyone is getting prepared to tear into the forests<br> tomorrow. Yet I've heard from a few that the public is not to be<br> permitted into Crown Land forests due to Covid. Can anyone confirm<br= > that for me?<br> <br> We are told that many of these restrictions are in place in the event<br> that we have an accident and require medical assistance or rescue.<br> Truly, how many walkers are in need of rescue? It is far more likely<= br> that it will be ATVs and forestry crews who would be in need of rescue<br> or medical assistance than someone walking on a quiet trail.<br> <br> Bev<br> Round Hill<br> <br> </div> </span></font></div> </body> </html> --_000_BL0PR02MB47698288BAC1D6185CEC548789AF0BL0PR02MB4769namp_--
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