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(Sorry! It wuz the John Gilhen connection!)
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None of us thought of pickerel as a possible cause of death back in 2006 =
=E2=80=A6 Something bit it good prior to death.
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Also, it was the first white sucker I=E2=80=99d seen, but that =
doesn=E2=80=99t mean much!
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of =
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca
Sent: April 9, 2020 5:33 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale
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I'm interested John.=20
What's so special about a White Sucker from Lake Annis?=20
I suspect there lots of them there.=20
Enjoy the spring=20
Paul=20
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On April 9, 2020 at 1:28 PM John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =
wrote:=20
Still have a white sucker from Lake Annis to hand over to John or the =
Museum! My brother discovered it back in 2006, possibly =
pickerel-bitten. It=E2=80=99s a long way from Yarmouth to Halifax, =
sometimes.
=20
Would be delighted to hand it over to the Museum next time someone comes =
down. It is talking up a fair bit of room in the freezer!
=20
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Ronald Arsenault
Sent: April 9, 2020 11:04 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale
=20
Hell John,
=20
John Gilhen reports an early date of April 13, 1980 as the earliest =
spring record in Amphibians and Reptiles of Nova Scotia (1984). This =
record also appears on the website of the NS Museum of Natural History =
here: <https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes/redbelly.asp> =
https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes/redbelly.asp However, =
John has told me that all his early records in that publications had =
since been "smashed". Unfortunately, including re the Red-bellied =
Snake, I have no idea how many days "smashed" refers to! =20
=20
While I do not know what the current NS early record for Red-bellied =
Snake might be, I do have an April 4, 2010 record ( =
<http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/garter-snake-couleuvres?contex=
t=3Duser> =
http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/garter-snake-couleuvres?context=
=3Duser) for the Garter Snake in southern New Brunswick. An early record =
from NB beating an NS early record (as published in Gilhens book) by 12 =
days (!) suggests to me that your record is unlikely to be the earliest =
NS record for the Red-bellied Snake. Does anyone know what the early =
record for NS might be?
=20
Cheers,
=20
Ron
=20
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:54 AM John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =
wrote:
Being in the banana belt probably has something to do with it, but =
I=E2=80=99m wondering if this is some sort of record.
=20
I did see a garter snake one hot spring day upcountry (Hamilton Road, =
Pleasant Valley, about ten years ago), but not this early.
=20
Peepers started about a week ago, too. Forgot to report!
=20
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Shouty McShoutsalot
Sent: April 8, 2020 10:13 PM
To: naturens
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale
=20
Thats early.
=20
On Wed., Apr. 8, 2020, 19:46 John and Nhung, <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =
wrote:
Roadkill on the Wyman Road, near the Chebogue end, this evening. =20
=20
Don=E2=80=99t think I have ever seen one out this early. In my younger =
years, snakes started appearing in mid- to late May.
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--
Ronald G. Arsenault
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>(Sorry!=C2=A0 It wuz the John Gilhen =
connection!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>None of us thought of pickerel as a possible cause of death back in =
2006 =E2=80=A6 Something bit it good prior to =
death.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Also, it was the first white sucker I=E2=80=99d seen, but that =
doesn=E2=80=99t mean much!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca<br><b>Sent:</b> April 9, =
2020 5:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><b>Subject:</b> =
RE: [NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I'm =
interested John. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>What's =
so special about a White Sucker from Lake Annis? =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I suspect there lots of =
them there. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Enjoy the =
spring <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Paul =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
blue 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
8.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On April 9, 2020 at =
1:28 PM John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Still have a white sucker from Lake Annis to hand over to John or the =
Museum! My brother discovered it back in 2006, possibly =
pickerel-bitten. It=E2=80=99s a long way from Yarmouth to Halifax, =
sometimes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Would be delighted to hand it over to the Museum next time someone =
comes down. It is talking up a fair bit of room in the =
freezer!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
<strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of =
</span></strong>Ronald Arsenault<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> April =
9, 2020 11:04 AM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> =
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>Hell =
John,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>John Gilhen reports =
an early date of April 13, 1980 as the earliest spring record in =
Amphibians and Reptiles of Nova Scotia (1984). This record also appears =
on the website of the NS Museum of Natural History here: <a =
href=3D"https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes/redbelly.asp" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/sna=
kes/redbelly.asp</span></a> However, John has told me that all his =
early records in that publications had since been =
"smashed". Unfortunately, including re the Red-bellied =
Snake, I have no idea how many days "smashed" refers =
to! </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>While I do not know =
what the current NS early record for Red-bellied Snake =
might be, I do have an April 4, 2010 record (<a =
href=3D"http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/garter-snake-couleuvres=
?context=3Duser"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/gart=
er-snake-couleuvres?context=3Duser</span></a>) for the Garter Snake =
in southern New Brunswick. An early record from NB beating an NS early =
record (as published in Gilhens book) by 12 days (!) suggests to me that =
your record is unlikely to be the earliest NS record for the Red-bellied =
Snake. Does anyone know what the early record for NS might =
be?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:18.0pt'>Ron</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:54 AM John and Nhung <<a =
href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Being in the banana belt probably has something to do with it, but =
I=E2=80=99m wondering if this is some sort of =
record.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I did see a garter snake one hot spring day upcountry (Hamilton Road, =
Pleasant Valley, about ten years ago), but not this =
early.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Peepers started about a week ago, too. Forgot to =
report!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On Behalf Of =
</span></strong>Shouty McShoutsalot<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> April =
8, 2020 10:13 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></strong> =
naturens<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thats =
early.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed., Apr. 8, 2020, 19:46 John and Nhung, <<a =
href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Roadkill on the Wyman Road, near =
the Chebogue end, this evening. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Don=E2=80=99t think I have ever seen one out this =
early. In my younger years, snakes started appearing in mid- to =
late =
May.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquot=
e></div><p class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>--<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ronald G. Arsenault<br>Halifax, Nova =
Scotia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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