[NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale

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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:03:52 -0300
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Hell John,

John Gilhen reports an early date of April 13, 1980 as the earliest spring
record in Amphibians and Reptiles of Nova Scotia (1984). This record also
appears on the website of the NS Museum of Natural History here:
https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes/redbelly.asp However,
John has told me that all his early records in that publications had since
been "smashed".  Unfortunately, including re the Red-bellied Snake, I have
no idea how many days "smashed" refers to!

While I do not know what the current NS early record for Red-bellied Snake
might be, I do have an April 4, 2010 record (
http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/garter-snake-couleuvres?context=
=3Duser)
for
the Garter Snake in southern New Brunswick. An early record from NB beating
an NS early record (as published in Gilhens book) by 12 days (!) suggests
to me that your record is unlikely to be the earliest NS record for the
Red-bellied Snake. Does anyone know what the early record for NS might be?

Cheers,

Ron

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:54 AM John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote=
:

> Being in the banana belt probably has something to do with it, but I=E2=
=80=99m
> wondering if this is some sort of record.
>
>
>
> I did see a garter snake one hot spring day upcountry (Hamilton Road,
> Pleasant Valley, about ten years ago), but not this early.
>
>
>
> Peepers started about a week ago, too.  Forgot to report!
>
>
>
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *Shouty McShoutsalot
> *Sent:* April 8, 2020 10:13 PM
> *To:* naturens
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Dead redbellied snale
>
>
>
> Thats early.
>
>
>
> On Wed., Apr. 8, 2020, 19:46 John and Nhung, <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Roadkill on the Wyman Road, near the Chebogue end, this evening.
>
>
>
> Don=E2=80=99t think I have ever seen one out this early.  In my younger y=
ears,
> snakes started appearing in mid- to late May.
>
>

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Ronald G. Arsenault
Halifax, Nova Scotia

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Hel=
l John,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">John Gilhen repor=
ts an early date of April 13, 1980 as the earliest=C2=A0spring record in Am=
phibians and Reptiles of Nova Scotia (1984). This record also appears on th=
e website of the NS Museum of Natural History here:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:/=
/novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes/redbelly.asp" style=3D"font-size=
:small" target=3D"_blank">https://novascotia.ca/museum/amphibians/en/snakes=
/redbelly.asp</a>=C2=A0However, John has told me that all his early records=
 in that publications had since been &quot;smashed&quot;.=C2=A0 Unfortunate=
ly, including re the Red-bellied Snake, I have no idea how many days &quot;=
smashed&quot; refers to!=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:large">While I do not know what the=C2=A0current NS early record for R=
ed-bellied Snake might=C2=A0be, I do have an April 4, 2010 record (<a href=
=3D"http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/photo/garter-snake-couleuvres?conte=
xt=3Duser" style=3D"font-size:small">http://birdingnewbrunswick.ning.com/ph=
oto/garter-snake-couleuvres?context=3Duser</a>)=C2=A0for the Garter Snake i=
n southern New Brunswick. An early record from NB beating an NS early recor=
d (as published in Gilhens book) by 12 days (!) suggests to me that your re=
cord is unlikely to be the earliest NS record for the Red-bellied Snake. Do=
es anyone know what the early record for NS might be?</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"font-size:large">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
size:large">Ron</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 6:54 AM John and Nhung &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.c=
a</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"=
><div lang=3D"EN-CA"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Being in the banan=
a belt probably has something to do with it, but I=E2=80=99m wondering if t=
his is some sort of record.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I d=
id see a garter snake one hot spring day upcountry (Hamilton Road, Pleasant=
 Valley, about ten years ago), but not this early.<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(31,73,125)">Peepers started about a week ago, too.=C2=A0 Forgot to re=
port!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebuc=
to.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" targe=
t=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>