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Lots of seed pods with seeds therein in and around Windsor. I started a few
last year, they are viable. Nick, I also view propagation of
Appalachian/Carolinian species the same way; could well be our climate soon
will easily permit them to flourish here, and to our benefit. I also note
the loss of our natives. Encouraging trees that thrive just south of us to
grow here does not violate my sensibilities as a conservationist living in
an ecologically dynamic time and place. Add to that the inherent utility of
this tree for ecosystem services and value to a homesteader, unless some
dire fact comes to light in the very near future, I do intend to propagate
black locust.
Thanks for your insights
Dave in Currys Corner
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 1:40 PM David Webster, <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
> Hi All, Dave S. & Nick,
>
> Roland notes that it rarely sets seed in NS so I would not worry
> about it spreading like wildfire. The Loyalists were refugees so largely
> came with a minimum of baggage. The fortunate ones had the protection of
> British forces but some barely escaped via woods with just the clothes on
> their back. In either case trees would not have been a priority.
>
> But subsequently there was much US/Canada traffic of people and goods
> so I expect it came by trade or individual interest. Black Locust is prized
> for fence posts because it is rot resistant but apparently can sucker and
> spread in that way.
>
> Invasive plants serve a useful purpose. They take advantage of
> disturbed soil and thus help minimize erosion.
>
> Dave W. Kentville
> On 4/21/2019 12:50 PM, Nick Hill wrote:
>
> The black locust is an early successional tree of the Appalachian
> deciduous forest. That it was planted by Loyalists is pertinent if we can
> know 2here that genetic stock came from. With climate change temperature
> changes are moving faster than trees so any trees from further south that
> can make it here to diversify our forest is a good thing. We worry about
> "invasive " trees and shrubs filling the ecological niches created by
> changed climate and by abandoned farmland (see rose multiflora in old
> pastures). Trees and shrubs from the Appalachian deciduous forest may help
> prevent the incursions of exotics. They also replace the trees we are
> losing due to disease.. hemlock ash etc.
> I have seen pods of Robinia ..the locust..but not found viable seed. Is
> this true? Is it due to climate or to incompatibility...that they need
> another individual to mate w and can't self pollinate?
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 12:01 PM David Simpson, <david.sonsimp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Curious if anyone knows much about how/when Black Locust came to be
>> planted in Nova Scotia. Perhaps it came with the Loyalists following the
>> Revolution for use on their homesteads? Or did it come more recently for
>> sale in 20th century garden centers?
>>
>> It is an undeniably utilitarian plant - fast growing, hot burning, rot
>> resistant hardwood, mega flowerer, animal fodder (?). It is also considered
>> invasive by many, I believe planting is restricted in the NE US.
>>
>> All to say, im a little conflicted about planting this tree here. Just
>> looking for opinions, to discuss this non native, naturalized to NS tree.
>>
>> Dave in Currys Corner
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Lots of seed pods with seeds therein in and around W=
indsor. I started a few last year, they are viable. Nick, I also view propa=
gation of Appalachian/Carolinian species the same way; could well be our cl=
imate soon will easily permit them to flourish here, and to our benefit. I =
also note the loss of our natives. Encouraging trees that thrive just south=
of us to grow here does not violate my sensibilities as a conservationist =
living in an ecologically dynamic time and place. Add to that the inherent =
utility of this tree for ecosystem services and value to a homesteader, unl=
ess some dire fact comes to light in the very near future, I do intend to p=
ropagate black locust.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks =
for your insights</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave i=
n Currys Corner</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 1:40 PM David Webster, <=
dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:<br>=
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eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi All, Dave S. & Nick,</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Roland notes that it rarely se=
ts seed in NS so I would
not worry about it spreading like wildfire. The Loyalists were
refugees so largely came with a minimum of baggage. The fortunate
ones had the protection of British forces but some barely escaped
via woods with just the clothes on their back. In either case
trees would not have been a priority.</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But subsequently there was much US/Canada traffic=
of people
and goods so I expect it came by trade or individual interest.
Black Locust is prized for fence posts because it is rot resistant
but apparently can sucker and spread in that way.</p>
<p>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Invasive plants serve a useful purpose. They take=
advantage
of disturbed soil and thus help minimize erosion. <br>
</p>
<p>Dave W. Kentville<br>
</p>
<div class=3D"m_3115489168615528181moz-cite-prefix">On 4/21/2019 12:50 =
PM, Nick Hill wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">The black locust is an early successional tree of
the Appalachian deciduous forest. That it was planted by
Loyalists is pertinent if we can know 2here that genetic stock
came from. With climate change temperature changes are moving
faster than trees so any trees from further south that can make
it here to diversify our forest is a good thing. We worry about
"invasive " trees and shrubs filling the ecological niche=
s
created by changed climate and by abandoned farmland (see