[NatureNS] Big bang, scattering and red shift

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On 2019-04-07 8:45 a.m., Burkhard Plache wrote:
> Hi David,
> to correct a common misrepresentation: The cosmological red shift of
> light is not due to the source moving away but due to the space
> expanding. Two very different phenomena.
> Also, Rayleigh scattering is not changing the wavelength of the
> scattered light, hence is not contributing to redshift.
> Burkhard
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 8:17 AM David Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>> Hi Burkhard,

Thanks. It seems to me that we are getting tangled up in semantics.

     If space expands then it makes objects appear to be moving away.

     And, indeed, scattering does not destroy shorter wavelengths but it 
does deflect them so they are partially or entirely culled from those 
waves which are moving from source to observer. Thus, at the local 
level; blue skies, white clouds, red sunsets and that green flash which 
one sometimes sees from the cockpit when landing and facing west near 
sunset.

     The above are all effects of our atmosphere. But there is ample 
evidence of cosmic dust, ranging from particles to atoms, so one would 
expect scattering of shorter wavelengths throughout space to increase 
with distance between observer and source; greater opportunity for 
scattering.

     So rephrasing my question in current jargon, are red shifts of 
light due to expansion of space, distinct from red shifts which might be 
due to Rayleigh scattering whereby shorter wavelengths from a source are 
less likely to reach an observer ?

     Or more directly, why is the observed increase in red shift with 
distance between source and observer attributed to an expansion of 
space  as opposed to greater opportunity for scattering of shorter 
wavelengths of light as this distance increases ?

Dave




>> Dear All, but especially astrophysics experts,
>>
>>       Is the red shift of light, which would be due to the source moving
>> away at great speed, intrinsically unlike the red shift due to Rayleigh
>> scattering (which selectively scatters shorter wavelengths; 1/[length to
>> the fourth power]) ?
>>
>>       With ample dust in space, ranging from particles to atoms, one
>> would expect the red shift due to scattering to also be a function of
>> distance to source.
>>
>> Dave Webster, Kentville
>>

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