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--------=_MB1A4EADF4-6114-439D-9B69-D153C6A19363 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Donna & All, Here we go again, but I feel compelled to comment on your contention= =20 (Chron. Hrld., p.A3, Aug 22, 2018) that use of Glyphosate to control=20 hardwoods will lead to nutrient depletion. I suppose if one carefully=20 selected sites where this might apply, [eskers or well drained portion=20 of drumlins], then it could be demonstrated by experiment. But general=20 truth is not proven with a thumb on the balance. And as an aside, I don't think spraying to kill hardwoods is prudent= =20 in areas which resemble the woods near Kentville. Spruce continue to die=20 like attic flies and in far less than 80 years, if current trends=20 continue, Spruce near Kentville will be nearly unknown. And I do agree=20 that a mixed forest is best able to roll with the punches delivered over=20 time provided the context is land never used for farming which will=20 usually mean a defective profile. We should be more receptive to a model=20 of timber production widely used elsewhere; plant relatively good soil=20 to trees evenly spaced in rows and mow the lot when mature. Sometimes Spruce is shallow rooted due to impervious subsoil=20 overlain by rocks and nutrients are supplied to these trees by lateral=20 flow from upslope and by mineralization of the underlying rocks..=20 Hardwoods do poorly on such sites and when there is a stiff wind the=20 Spruce blow over, frequently in clumps of from two eight trees and the=20 'topsoil' is revealed, a thin carpet of moss and roots which is peeled=20 back to reveal highly mineralized rocks. On a nearby site, 100" away,=20 Spruce may be so deeply rooted that it breaks off above ground in a=20 stiff wind while adjacent Poplar are uprooted and nearby Maple also fall=20 in large numbers if the soil is saturated to rooting depth by heavy rain=20 plus lateral subsurface flow. In one blow I lost 2-3 acres of hardwood,=20 Mostly Maple and Poplar, with nothing left standing. To pull the above together: soil profile physical properties are the= =20 coarse controls and assuming that forest soils should be as rich in=20 nutrients as soil used for annual crops flies in the face of experience.=20 Trees are there year round, have tissue capable of extracting nutrients=20 from precipitation, fixing N etc. Recent "studies" which assume=20 otherwise are just exercises in meaningless number crunching. These endless debates could perhaps simmer down if it were more=20 widely appreciated IA) that forest cover moderates extremes in stream=20 flow as opposed to the flood>drought generated by clearcuts and typical=20 urban conditions, 1B) the debate should not be just about clearcut yes=20 or no but about what fraction of a watershed can be cut over a decade. I=20 would favor 10%. 2) small woodlot owners should be paid to maintain=20 this cover, and 3) the small woodlot owner should be free to sell lumber=20 extracted from his lot. Then selective cutting would be more realistic.=20 It would also help if those entirely against clear cutting would buy a=20 woodlot and show everyone else how to turn a profit using selective=20 cutting. It is not as easy as it sounds. Especially if you have to pay a=20 $500 annual certification fee. Yt, DW --------=_MB1A4EADF4-6114-439D-9B69-D153C6A19363 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head> <style id=3D"css_styles"><![CDATA[ blockquote.cite { margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;= padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc } blockquote.cite2 {margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;= padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin-top: 3px; padding= -top: 0px; } a img { border: 0px; } li[style=3D'text-align: center;'], li[style=3D'text-align: right;'] { list= -style-position: inside;} body { font-family: Segoe UI; font-size: 12pt; } ]]></style> </head> <body>Hi Donna & All,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Here we go again, but I feel co= mpelled to comment on your contention (Chron. Hrld., p.A3, Aug 22, 2018) th= at use of Glyphosate to control hardwoods will lead to nutrient depletion.= I suppose if one carefully selected sites where this might apply, [eskers o= r well drained portion of drumlins], then it could be demonstrated by exper= iment. But general truth is not proven with a thumb on the balance.=C2=A0</= div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And as an aside, I don't think spraying to kill hard= woods is prudent in areas which resemble the woods near Kentville. Spruce c= ontinue to die like attic flies and in far less than 80 years, if current t= rends continue, Spruce near Kentville will be nearly unknown. And I do agre= e that a mixed forest is best able to roll with the punches delivered over= time provided the context is land never used for farming which will usually = mean a defective profile. We should be more receptive to a model of timber = production widely used elsewhere; plant relatively good soil to trees even= ly spaced in rows and mow the lot when mature.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Sometimes Spruce is shallow rooted due to impervious subsoil overlain b= y rocks and nutrients are supplied to these trees by lateral flow from upsl= ope and by mineralization of the underlying rocks.. Hardwoods do poorly on= such sites and when there is a stiff wind the Spruce blow over, frequently= in clumps of from two eight trees and the 'topsoil' is revealed, a thin car= pet of moss and roots which is peeled back to reveal highly mineralized roc= ks. On a nearby site, 100" away, Spruce may be so deeply rooted that it bre= aks off above ground in a stiff wind while adjacent Poplar are uprooted and = nearby Maple also fall in large numbers if the soil is saturated to rootin= g depth by heavy rain plus lateral subsurface flow. In one blow I lost 2-3= acres of hardwood, Mostly Maple and Poplar, with nothing left standing.=C2= =A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 To pull the above together: soil profile physic= al properties are the coarse controls and assuming that forest soils should = be as rich in nutrients as soil used for annual crops flies in the face of = experience. Trees are there year round, have tissue capable of extracting= nutrients from precipitation, fixing N etc. Recent "studies" which assume o= therwise are just exercises in meaningless number crunching.=C2=A0</div><di= v>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 These endless debates could perhaps simmer down if it were= more widely appreciated IA) that forest cover moderates extremes in stream= flow as opposed to the flood>drought generated by clearcuts and typical= urban conditions, 1B) <i>the debate should not be just about clearcut yes o= r no</i>=C2=A0but about what fraction of a watershed can be cut over a deca= de. I would favor 10%.<i>=C2=A0</i> 2) small woodlot owners should be paid= to maintain this cover, and 3) the small woodlot owner should be free to se= ll lumber extracted from his lot. Then selective cutting would be more real= istic. It would also help if those entirely against clear cutting would buy = a woodlot and show everyone else how to turn a profit using selective cutt= ing. It is not as easy as it sounds. Especially if you have to pay a $500 a= nnual certification fee.</div><div>Yt, DW</div></body></html> --------=_MB1A4EADF4-6114-439D-9B69-D153C6A19363--
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