Re[2]: [NatureNS] Swallow news - Plexiglas

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Hi  Steve and All,
     I copied my plates from the square copper ones online but used scrap p=
lexi as it was easier for me to work with (I was a cabinet maker by trade) =
 and free.  I used 3/16" plexi but thickness shouldn't matter. I cut the sq=
uares 3" +/- on a table saw and used a drill press for the holes. I used a =
1-1/2" spade bit (the one with spurs on the outside works best) and flipped=
 the disc when the hole was half way thru.  A hole saw would also work. Dri=
ll 4 small holes for screws. Sand the outside plate edges and the rim of th=
e big hole smooth. I also sanded the outside surface of the plate to remove=
 the reflective plexi surface. Clear plexi works fine.
    They seem to work for me ( the swallows quickly learn to ignore them) a=
lthough a determined squirrel can probably chew the plexi if it really want=
s in the box.
     I had no problem with the commercial plates except I needed 30 and at =
$6.00 each.it was beyond my budget.
     Plexi is difficult to work with so unless you have some carpentry skil=
ls and proper tools I recommend you get a friend with a shop. to do you a f=
avor. I'll let you know later in the fall, when I clean out the boxes, if t=
here was any squirrel damage. Good luck and all the best.
 Fritz


From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of David <dwebster@glinx.com>
Sent: July 20, 2018 3:35 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Swallow news - Plexiglas

Hi Steve & All,
    I would try drilling a small hole on the circumference and using a copi=
ng saw to cut the round or oval hole. For a snag-free hole one could heat t=
he plate on a metal pie plate in an oven.
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "Stephen Shaw" <srshaw@Dal.Ca<mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca>>
To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca>>
Sent: 7/20/2018 2:37:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Swallow news - Plexiglas

Fritz, interesting, thanks for the tip, we have the squirrel-chew problem t=
oo.
I=92d have thought that PMMA [Plexiglas (US) / Acrylic (Cdn) / Perspex (UK)=
] would be too soft and therefore just as easily chewed by squirrels as woo=
d =97 copper sheet would be needed instead, but apparently not so.   Presum=
ably they just don=92t like the taste?

I have plenty of offcuts so will try it.  Do you use the widely available 1=
/4=94 thickness, see-through clear sheet, or is black 1/4=94 equally or mor=
e effective, or does it matter, or does the thickness matter (if known)?  D=
rilling big holes in the thinner sheets is a bit of a challenge as it shatt=
ers easily.
Steve (Hfx)

On Jul 19, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com<mailto:f=
ritzmcevoy@hotmail.com>> wrote:

    ...  Another reason for the late breeding may have to do with the preda=
tor guards I put on most of my boxes in May. Although squirrels  are not - =
in my experience- swallow predators here, they do like to make the entrance=
 holes bigger and then use the boxes as roosts or nests. The guards (a 3"x =
3" Plexiglas plate with a 1 1/2" hole screwed over the box opening) seem to=
 have worked well so far and the boxes have not been filled with hay or shr=
edded bark.
      I'll have a better idea of how the season went in the fall after I've=
 cleaned out the boxes. All the best.

         Fritz McEvoy
         Sunrise Valley, CB (near Dingwall)


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Hi&nbsp;&nbsp;Steve and All,&nbsp;</div>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I copied my plates from the square copper ones online b=
ut used scrap plexi as it was easier for me to work with (I was a cabinet m=
aker by trade)&nbsp; and free.&nbsp; I used 3/16&quot; plexi but&nbsp;thick=
ness shouldn't matter. I cut the squares 3&quot; &#43;/- on a table saw and
 used a drill press for the holes. I used a 1-1/2&quot; spade bit (the one =
with spurs on the outside works best) and flipped the disc when the hole wa=
s half way thru.&nbsp; A hole saw would also work. Drill 4 small holes for =
screws. Sand the outside plate edges and the
 rim of the big hole smooth. I also sanded the outside surface of the plate=
 to remove the reflective plexi surface.&nbsp;Clear plexi works fine.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; &nbsp; They seem to work for me ( the swallows quickly learn to igno=
re them) although a determined&nbsp;squirrel can probably chew the plexi if=
 it really wants in the box.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I had no problem with the commercial plates except I ne=
eded 30 and at&nbsp;$6.00 each.it was beyond my budget.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Plexi is difficult to work with so unless you have some=
 carpentry skills and proper tools I&nbsp;recommend you get a friend with a=
 shop. to do you a favor. I'll let you know later in the fall, when I clean=
 out the boxes, if there was any squirrel damage. Good
 luck&nbsp;and all the best.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
 color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
&nbsp;Fritz</div>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> naturens-owner@chebuc=
to.ns.ca &lt;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&gt; on behalf of David &lt;dwebs=
ter@glinx.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> July 20, 2018 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re[2]: [NatureNS] Swallow news - Plexiglas</font>
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<div>Hi Steve &amp; All,</div>
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; I would try drilling a small hole on the circumference a=
nd using a coping saw to cut the round or oval hole. For a snag-free hole o=
ne could heat the plate on a metal pie plate in an oven.&nbsp;</div>
<div>Yt, DW, Kentville&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>From: &quot;Stephen Shaw&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca">sr=
shaw@Dal.Ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: &quot;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens=
@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>Sent: 7/20/2018 2:37:15 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Swallow news - Plexiglas</div>
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id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 0px;">
Fritz, interesting, thanks for the tip, we have the squirrel-chew problem t=
oo. &nbsp;
<div>I=92d have thought that PMMA [Plexiglas (US) / Acrylic (Cdn) / Perspex=
 (UK)] would be too soft and therefore just as easily chewed by squirrels a=
s wood =97 copper sheet would be needed instead, but apparently not so. &nb=
sp; Presumably they just don=92t like the taste?
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I have plenty of offcuts so will try it. &nbsp;Do you use the widely a=
vailable 1/4=94 thickness, see-through clear sheet, or is black 1/4=94 equa=
lly or more effective, or does it matter, or does the thickness matter (if =
known)? &nbsp;Drilling big holes in the thinner
 sheets is a bit of a challenge as it shatters easily.</div>
<div>Steve (Hfx)<br>
<br>
<div>
<div>On Jul 19, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Fritz McEvoy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fritzm=
cevoy@hotmail.com">fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; ... &nbsp;Another reason for the late breeding may have to do wi=
th the predator guards I put on most of my boxes in May. Although squirrels=
&nbsp; are not - in my experience- swallow predators here,
 they do like to make the entrance holes bigger and then use the boxes as r=
oosts or nests. The guards (a 3&quot;x 3&quot; Plexiglas plate with a 1 1/2=
&quot;&nbsp;hole screwed over the box opening)&nbsp;seem to have worked wel=
l so far and the boxes have not been filled with hay or shredded
 bark.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I'll have a better idea of how the season went in the fal=
l after I've cleaned out the boxes. All the best.</div>
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>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt">&nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fritz McEvoy</div>
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sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Sunrise Valley, CB&nbsp;(near Dingwall)</div=
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