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Just a note to comment on the hummer situation. A number of years ago when =
 I lived in Kentville, my wife noticed one morning that there was a hummer =
hanging upside down on a branch on one of our shrubs. We thought it was dea=
d, so we buried it. After further investigation we found information that t=
hey have the ability to slow their metabolism and go into a minor form of h=
ibernation during cold weather. Many times a little warming and some warm f=
ood may revive them if they are in this state, but one needs to be cautious=
 not to do injury. Will be glad to have warmer weather arrive for a longer =
time so this doesn=E2=80=99t happen any more.

Bob Haimes
West Gore

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From: David
Sent: June 5, 2018 7:18 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could comme=
nt

Hi All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Just from first principles (large area/ unit mass) I would su=
spect exposure. We have had some cold weather and the effect would cumulate=
. My animal metabolism is 65 years rusty but I suspect a body taken to the =
right lab would help decide one way or another; very low fat.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As for the female being concerned about her=C2=A0mate or kin;=
 that does not sound unusual. Geese mate for life. Parents go bonkers when =
a nest is under attack or falls. Mother hens protect their chicks. Several =
days ago an associate told me that while driving through New Minas a bird w=
as hit by a vehicle and a second bird flew in and landed near it in spite o=
f heavy traffic. =C2=A0
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ken McKenna" <kenmcken54@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 6/5/2018 4:22:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could comment

Hi Billy=C2=A0
Sounds like the problem might have been more widespread. This is a note I r=
eceived today from Lanark-Antigonish Harbour area.=C2=A0


=E2=80=9CWondering if you are hearing of any unusual Hummer deaths? I have =
had three the past week and don't know what to make of it. Had to pry a fem=
ale with rigor mortis off a feeder this a.m. The nectar I use is fresh ever=
y day and I have been feeding up to to 12 birds daily. If this is unique to=
 me perhaps it is just an older population? Of course the temps. have been =
really cold overnight and it has been wet.Have not had this problem before.=
Hope it is not a disease!=E2=80=9D


Sounds to me like the cold might be doing them in. At 10:00 this morning it=
 was still only 3C in the Trafalgar area, Pictou Co. Hopefully the cold wil=
l soon disappear. =C2=A0Most of my garden grape leaves are toast now as wel=
l after the frost earlier this week.=C2=A0




Cheers
Ken=C2=A0


Sent from my iPad
Ken McKenna
Stellarton=C2=A0
NS=C2=A0

On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:
Given the abundance of food you provide, I'm suspecting there was something=
 other than exposure involved...it could have been parasites or an illness.=
 That is an interesting observation of the attending female; I've not heard=
 of it before.

Randy


_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.

On 4 June 2018 at 17:45, bdigout <bdigout@seaside.ns.ca> wrote:
I got a call around 9:00 last night from Clarence Landry of Seaview, Rich. =
Co., concerned about a male Hummer fluffed up and literally "stuck" to his =
feeder.=C2=A0 He was concerned it might be in ill health. I told him it was=
 probably very cold.=C2=A0 He called back later saying that he had gone out=
side and found the male on the ground beneath the feeder, not moving, and w=
ith a female sitting close against it.=C2=A0 He took them both in the house=
 and left them in a covered box overnight.=C2=A0 This morning the male was =
dead and the female flew away as soon as he released it outside.=C2=A0 It t=
hen went directly to the feeder.=C2=A0 Was the male sick, or would it have =
frozen? Is this common behavior for the female to stick close by a sick/dyi=
ng mate?
Billy



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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just a note to comment on the hummer=
 situation. A number of years ago when=C2=A0 I lived in Kentville, my wife =
noticed one morning that there was a hummer hanging upside down on a branch=
 on one of our shrubs. We thought it was dead, so we buried it. After furth=
er investigation we found information that they have the ability to slow th=
eir metabolism and go into a minor form of hibernation during cold weather.=
 Many times a little warming and some warm food may revive them if they are=
 in this state, but one needs to be cautious not to do injury. Will be glad=
 to have warmer weather arrive for a longer time so this doesn=E2=80=99t ha=
ppen any more.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal>Bob Haimes</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>West Gore</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.m=
icrosoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=
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lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0cm'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"=
mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David</a><br><b>Sent: </b>June 5, 2018 7:18 PM<b=
r><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.n=
s.ca</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re[2]: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe =
someone could comment</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",san=
s-serif'>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>&nbsp; &nbsp; Just fr=
om first principles (large area/ unit mass) I would suspect exposure. We ha=
ve had some cold weather and the effect would cumulate. My animal metabolis=
m is 65 years rusty but I suspect a body taken to the right lab would help =
decide one way or another; very low fat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",san=
s-serif'>&nbsp; &nbsp; As for the female being concerned about her&nbsp;mat=
e or kin; that does not sound unusual. Geese mate for life. Parents go bonk=
ers when a nest is under attack or falls. Mother hens protect their chicks.=
 Several days ago an associate told me that while driving through New Minas=
 a bird was hit by a vehicle and a second bird flew in and landed near it i=
n spite of heavy traffic. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-seri=
f'>Yt, DW, Kentville<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:1=
2.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>------ Original Message ------<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From: &quot;Ken McKenna&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kenmcken54@eastlink.ca">kenmcken54@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebuc=
to.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-s=
erif'>Sent: 6/5/2018 4:22:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could comment<=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div id=3Dxa94c40fde2f947a><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:s=
olid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:=
2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Hi Billy&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sounds like the problem might have been mo=
re widespread. This is a note I received today from Lanark-Antigonish Harbo=
ur area.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma"=
,sans-serif'>=E2=80=9CWondering if you are hearing of any unusual Hummer de=
aths? I have had three the past week and don't know what to make of it. Had=
 to pry a female with rigor mortis off a feeder this a.m. The nectar I use =
is fresh every day and I have been feeding up to to 12 birds daily. If this=
 is unique to me perhaps it is just an older population? Of course the temp=
s. have been really cold overnight and it has been wet.Have not had this pr=
oblem before.Hope it is not a disease!=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Taho=
ma",sans-serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sounds =
to me like the cold might be doing them in. At 10:00 this morning it was st=
ill only 3C in the Trafalgar area, Pictou Co. Hopefully the cold will soon =
disappear. &nbsp;Most of my garden grape leaves are toast now as well after=
 the frost earlier this week.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-ser=
if'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><br><br><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans=
-serif'>Ken&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div id=3DAppleM=
ailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-ser=
if'>Ken McKenna<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Stellarton&nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>NS&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><br>On Jun 5, 201=
8, at 3:23 PM, Randy Lauff &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">ran=
dy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0p=
t;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Given the abundance of food you provide, I'm suspecti=
ng there was something other than exposure involved...it could have been pa=
rasites or an illness. That is an interesting observation of the attending =
female; I've not heard of it before.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Randy<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><br clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma"=
,sans-serif'>_________________________________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the bo=
onies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-ser=
if'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>On 4 June 2018 at 17:45, bd=
igout &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bdigout@seaside.ns.ca">bdigout@seaside.ns.ca</a=
>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-l=
eft:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-=
right:0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>I got a call around 9=
:00 last night from Clarence Landry of Seaview, Rich. Co., concerned about =
a male Hummer fluffed up and literally &quot;stuck&quot; to his feeder.&nbs=
p; He was concerned it might be in ill health. I told him it was probably v=
ery cold.&nbsp; He called back later saying that he had gone outside and fo=
und the male on the ground beneath the feeder, not moving, and with a femal=
e sitting close against it.&nbsp; He took them both in the house and left t=
hem in a covered box overnight.&nbsp; This morning the male was dead and th=
e female flew away as soon as he released it outside.&nbsp; It then went di=
rectly to the feeder.&nbsp; Was the male sick, or would it have frozen? Is =
this common behavior for the female to stick close by a sick/dying mate?<br=
>Billy<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></d=
iv></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;=
margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:7.5pt'><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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