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--94eb2c123022f572e8056afc685c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very good article but what massive effort needed to counter industry objections. Industry supported organizations are posing as objective science lobbies and are questioning all ecological agricultural assumptions: are neonics linked to honeybee declines? Is grass fed beef really better for the ecosystem than grain fed beef? On Sat, Apr 28, 2018, 8:21 PM Mary Macaulay, <marymacaulay@hotmail.com> wrote: > Very surprised you are not aware and concerned about the extreme > ecological damage attributed to neonics David. Here=E2=80=99s one link to= get you > started on an unfortunate journey of sad discovery. > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284392/#!po=3D3.17287 > > > With kindest regards > > Mary (Macaulay), P.Eng. > Owner, Remember Adventures B&B & Caper Cafe > Bed & Breakfast, Pedal Buggy, bike, kayak, coaster & snowshoe rentals, > great bird friendly coffee, organic baking, breakfast & pasta, soups, > stews, vegan curries & chili, pollinator meadow, games & more!! > (Cafe/Buggies Open Wed to Sunday: 8:00 am - 3 pm; B&B 7 days a week - > please book via Airbnb) > HWY 6 & Station Road & Trans-Canada Trail > Tatamagouche > RememberAdventures.ca & InsectRecovery.org > 1-902-293-1533 > Twitter @RememberTata & @InsectRecovery > > On Apr 28, 2018, at 7:37 PM, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter & All, > Perhaps not such good news. The neonics ban is I think a case of mob > rule as opposed to experience based conclusions. Many farmers use Bees an= d > Neonics and they get along fine provided, relying on memory, one doesn't > use neonics on the field to be pollinated. Entomologists are reluctant to > get involved in a media firestorm but those who comment privately just > shake their heads in disbelief and say "What next ?". > And for some ground truth, always a good starting point, there was a > surplus of bees in NS last year. Some hives had to be destroyed because > management costs can not be covered by honey production alone and there w= as > lowered demand for pollination services. > And worldwide there is a surplus of honey. > Mark Twain observed that a lie can travel around the world while the > truth is putting on its shoes. And "One of the most striking differences > between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." > Witch hunts may make the mob feel superior but they end badly. > > On a related vein, I fear for our wild bees. They overwinter in the > ground and we had very deep frost this year. I have seen Honey Bees in my > yard but, as I feared, not one wild bee. > One should not waste time on non issues, such as neonic use, when the > great problem, climate change, is extremely serious. > Yt, DW, Kentville > From: pce@accesswave.ca > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Sent: 4/28/2018 6:10:14 PM > Subject: [NatureNS] Some good news for a change > > The following is not directly related to nature in Nova Scotia, but might > be some day. Apologies if this is seen to be going too far beyond the > NatureNS culture. > > I see in the news that the European Union is banning all neonicotinoids, = a > class of insecticide shown to pose a serious danger to bees. If you are > interested in reading about this, there are lots of stories available on > the web, for example on the BBC > <http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43910536>, The Guardian > <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/27/eu-agrees-total-ban-= on-bee-harming-pesticides>, > and Science > <http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/04/european-union-expands-ban-three-= neonicotinoid-pesticides>. > Might a ban happen in North America sometime? Might Nova Scotia see the e= nd > of neonics? > > Peter Payzant > > --94eb2c123022f572e8056afc685c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Very good article but= what massive effort needed to counter industry objections. Industry suppor= ted organizations are posing as objective science lobbies and are questioni= ng all ecological agricultural assumptions: are neonics linked to honeybee = declines? Is grass fed beef really better for the ecosystem than grain fed = beef?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir= =3D"auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"= ltr">On Sat, Apr 28, 2018, 8:21 PM Mary Macaulay, <<a href=3D"mailto:mar= ymacaulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #= ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir=3D"auto"> Very surprised you are not aware and concerned about the extreme ecological= damage attributed to neonics David. Here=E2=80=99s one link to get you sta= rted on an unfortunate journey of sad discovery. <div><a href=3D"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284392/#!po= =3D3.17287" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.g= ov/pmc/articles/PMC4284392/#!po=3D3.17287</a><br> <div><br> <br> <div id=3D"m_847037421490358616AppleMailSignature"> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">With kindest rega= rds</span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br> </span></div> <div> <div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Mary (Macaulay), = P.Eng.</span></div> <div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Owner, Remember A= dventures B&B & Caper Cafe</span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Bed & Breakfa= st, Pedal Buggy, bike, kayak, coaster & snowshoe rentals, great bird fr= iendly coffee, organic baking, breakfast & pasta, soups, stews, vegan c= urries & chili, pollinator meadow, games & more!!=C2=A0</span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">(Cafe/Buggies Ope= n Wed to Sunday: 8:00 am - 3 pm; B&B 7 days a week - please book via Ai= rbnb)</span></div> </div> </div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">HWY 6 & Stati= on Road &=C2=A0Trans-Canada Trail</span></div> <div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tatamagouche</spa= n></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href=3D"http:/= /RememberAdventures.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">RememberAdvent= ures.ca</a> & <a href=3D"http://InsectRecovery.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">= InsectRecovery.org</a></span></div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">1-902-293-1533</s= pan></div> </div> </div> <div><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Twitter @Remember= Tata & @InsectRecovery</span></div> </div> <div><br> On Apr 28, 2018, at 7:37 PM, David <<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com= " target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dwebster@glinx.com</a>> wrote:<br= > <br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div> <div>Hi Peter & All,</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Perhaps not such good news. The neonics ban is I think a= case of mob rule as opposed to experience based conclusions. Many farmers = use Bees and Neonics and they get along fine provided, relying on memory, o= ne doesn't use neonics on the field to be pollinated. Entomologists are reluctant to get involved in a media firesto= rm but those who comment privately just shake their heads in disbelief and = say "What next ?".=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And for some ground truth, always a good starting point,= there was a surplus of bees in NS last year. Some hives had to be destroye= d because management costs can not be covered by honey production alone and= there was lowered demand for pollination services.=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And worldwide there is a surplus of honey.=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mark Twain observed that a lie can travel around the wor= ld while the truth is putting on its shoes. And "One of the most strik= ing differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives.&= quot;=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Witch hunts may make the mob feel superior but they end = badly.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On a related vein, I fear for our wild bees. They overwi= nter in the ground and we had very deep frost this year. I have seen Honey = Bees in my yard but, as I feared, not one wild bee.=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 One should not waste time on non issues, such as neonic = use, when the great problem, climate change, is extremely serious.</div> <div>Yt, DW, Kentville</div> <div>From: <a href=3D"mailto:pce@accesswave.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"no= referrer">pce@accesswave.ca</a></div> <div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"noreferrer">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></div> <div>Sent: 4/28/2018 6:10:14 PM</div> <div>Subject: [NatureNS] Some good news for a change</div> <div><br> </div> <div id=3D"m_847037421490358616x0d707f20d2c6408" style=3D"color:#000000"> <blockquote cite=3D"http://bbfd74ff-6af7-8a2b-2995-aebc00a52503@accesswave.= ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"m_847037421490358616cite2"> The following is not directly related to nature in Nova Scotia, but might b= e some day. Apologies if this is seen to be going too far beyond the Nature= NS culture.<br> <br> I see in the news that the European Union is banning all neonicotinoids, a = class of insecticide shown to pose a serious danger to bees. If you are int= erested in reading about this, there are lots of stories available on the w= eb, for example on the <a href=3D"http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43910536" target=3D"= _blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> BBC</a>, <a href=3D"https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/27/eu-= agrees-total-ban-on-bee-harming-pesticides" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe= rrer"> The Guardian</a>, and <a href=3D"http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/04/eur= opean-union-expands-ban-three-neonicotinoid-pesticides" target=3D"_blank" r= el=3D"noreferrer"> Science</a>. Might a ban happen in North America sometime? Might Nova Scoti= a see the end of neonics?<br> <br> Peter Payzant<br> <br> </blockquote> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> --94eb2c123022f572e8056afc685c--
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