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--------=_MBC09C3001-08C4-48A6-A394-3884B9BF6F59 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Again, My question was not about composition of guano but whether or not=20 it kills woody perennials (especially trees) in areas where hardening=20 off to avoid cold induced winter kill (largely dessication I think) is=20 not a consideration; tropical to warm temperate. In extreme cases where=20 the deposit rate is high and soil becomes buried I expect all plant life=20 is killed. I visited a "Crane colony" in NS many years ago and there were no=20 live and lots of dead hardwood trees but I don't recall any noticeable=20 accumulation of bird droppings on the litter. Yt, DW, Kentville ------ Original Message ------ From: "Laviolette, Lance" <lance.laviolette@lmco.com> To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: 3/29/2018 4:00:57 PM Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Cormorants and Great Blues >Hi David, > > > >You are far more qualified than I am to understand the soil chemistry=20 >involved. Guano is uric acid so I=E2=80=99ll hypothesis that the acidic=20 >component damages the trees directly. > > > >Nick Hill might also be able to comment on the effect that gulls have=20 >had on plant community succession on Brier Island. I=E2=80=99d be interest= ed to=20 >know if it is the soil chemistry of former colony locations suppresses=20 >shrub and tree growth or if there is active destruction of young growth=20 >by gulls. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Lance > > > >From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 >[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of David >Sent: March 29, 2018 1:45 PM >To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >Subject: EXTERNAL: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Cormorants and Great Blues > > > >Hi Lance & All, > > I am guessing that tree death is due to winter kill of growth=20 >which, due to excess N, failed to harden off. But, does guano also kill=20 >woody perennials where winter kill is not possible (too warm) ? > >Yt, DW, Kentville > > > >------ Original Message ------ > >From: "Laviolette, Lance" <lance.laviolette@lmco.com> > >To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > >Sent: 3/29/2018 12:26:34 PM > >Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Cormorants and Great Blues > > > >>Hi Everyone, >> >> >> >>That=E2=80=99s the usual cycle of Great Blue Heron and Double-creasted=20 >>Cormorant nesting on Nova Scotia Islands. >> >> >> >>Grass > Brambles> Shrubs > Trees > double-crested cormorants/great=20 >>blue herons > Trees > Shrubs/brambles > Grass >> >> >> >>Guano is a great fertilizer, rich in nitrogen, phosphate and=20 >>potassium, but like any fertilizer, too much is not a good thing and=20 >>as everyone who has visited a cormorant or great blue heron colony=20 >>knows, they produce a lot of guano. >> >> >> >>The Great Blue Herons move to start the process on another treed=20 >>island once the trees are all killed and can no longer support a nest=20 >>structure (although I did come across Great Blue Herons nesting on an=20 >>island in a lake in Yarmouth County once). >> >> >> >>The Grass stage is prolonged as long as gulls and/or the cormorants=20 >>start nesting on the ground. Common Eiders can be in the mix at=20 >>several stages. >> >> >> >>The Grass stage ends and plant succession begins when these ground=20 >>nesting species are forced to move off the island and erosion hasn=E2=80= =99t=20 >>reduced the island to mostly bare rock. >> >> >> >>Cheers, >> >> >> >>Lance >> >> >> >>Lance Laviolette >> >>Glen Robertson, Ontario >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 >>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of John and Nhung >>Sent: March 29, 2018 10:36 AM >>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [NatureNS] Cormorants and Great Blues >> >> >> >>Here=E2=80=99s s story from before your time, John K.! >> >> >> >>Years ago, the island in mid-Yarmouth Harbour was well-treed. Mighta=20 >>been back in the =E2=80=9970=E2=80=99s that cormorants started to get mor= e abundant=20 >>and really liked that island. Lotsa bushes on the island now; all the=20 >>spruce trees died out. >> >> >> >>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 >>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Nick Hill >>Sent: March 29, 2018 10:21 AM >>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Cormorants and Great Blues >> >> >> >>John, are double-crested cormorants becoming a disturbance and habitat=20 >>enrichment problem here in NS..similar in a way to herring gulls? >> >>Nick >> >> >> >>On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:02 AM, John Kearney=20 >><john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >>Hi All, >>Two Double-crested Cormorants and six Great Blue Herons arrived at the=20 >>Johns Island nesting colony in Yarmouth Harbour this morning. There=20 >>seemed to be more cormorants crouching in grass, perhaps recovering=20 >>from their journey. I couldn=E2=80=99t tell for sure. >>None of these were there yesterday when I checked. >>John >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>Dr. N.M.Hill >>Fern Hill Institute of Plant Conservation >>424 Bentley Road, Berwick, NS, B0P 1E0 >> >>phone 902-698-0416 >> --------=_MBC09C3001-08C4-48A6-A394-3884B9BF6F59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head> <style type=3D"text/css"><!--#xfd4c2bb445c549f p.MsoNormal {margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', = serif;} #xfd4c2bb445c549f a:link {color: blue; text-decoration: underline;} #xfd4c2bb445c549f a:visited {color: purple; text-decoration: underline;} #xfd4c2bb445c549f div.WordSection1 {page: WordSection1;} --></style><style id=3D"css_styles" type=3D"text/css"><!--blockquote.cite { = margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; paddin