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With such a constipated list we will cer --Apple-Mail-8E2806C4-E5EE-46EA-9E5E-B0B1BB299F76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, my wife noticed a large flock of ducks on Miller Lake viewed from= HWY 103 near Fall River as she was driving by. Today I went out and found o= ver 100 Ring-necked Ducks there with the vast majority, bright and energetic= drakes.=20 Dave=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2018, at 1:35 PM, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote:= >=20 > It=E2=80=99s a good, constructive discussion. > =20 > (Re. robins, a big flock of hungries landed chez nous on Wyman Road this m= orning! Almost certainly migrants.) > =20 > Now. Canada Geese, on the other hand, are even more fun! > =20 > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]= On Behalf Of Eric Mills > Sent: March 21, 2018 11:36 AM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > Here's a tip for determining if a flock of robins is made up of migrants o= r not. Look at the flock composition: if it is made up of both sexes and imm= atures, it is certainly an overwintering flock, or at most has moved only a s= hort distance (being in a multiflora thicket is another clue to local origin= ). if, on the other hand, you find a flock on your lawn, looking around and t= rying to feed voraciously, and all big bright males, they are spring migrant= s. The same principle applies, with variations, for grackles: migrant flocks= , entirely males, tend to show up in treetops in significant numbers just af= ter arrival, displaying and calling frequently. > =20 > This is where field experience and local knowledge come in, as I suggested= in a more general way in an earlier posting. It's not the kind of skill tha= t will be acquired by just filling in an eBird checklist. > =20 > Sermon ended. > =20 > Eric > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beh= alf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com> > Sent: March 19, 2018 7:13:06 PM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > But no way to know if they were from out of province or elsewhere in the p= rovince. Probably out of province but there were groups of robins (up to 75)= reported in King=E2=80=99s County in February so we can=E2=80=99t be certai= n > =20 > Keith > =20 > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > =20 > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beh= alf of David <dwebster@glinx.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:56:16 PM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > Dear All, > Monday evening at 6:09 one of the Multiflora Rose bushes was mobbed by= 40-50 Robins and by 6:15 most had drifted elsewhere. Having not seen any in= the yard previously this winter I think it is safe to assume new arrivals.= =20 > Yt, DSW, Kentville > =20 > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Keith Lowe" <mythos25@live.com> > To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > Sent: 3/19/2018 4:46:07 PM > Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > I better apologize to Eric too. To me my email wasn=E2=80=99t strong, that= was not my intention while writing it but two people have written me now an= d it appeared to them that my email was certainly stronger than I intended. I= felt disappointment in Eric=E2=80=99s post and felt it was belittling the e= ffort but I think I also read more into that than Eric intended. > =20 > I mostly wanted to let the group know there were also those of us who appr= eciated their effort. But =E2=80=9Cdisparage=E2=80=9D Eric--never would I wa= nt to do that. > =20 > Keith > =20 > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > =20 > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beh= alf of Alix d'Entremont <alixdentremont@hotmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:19:34 PM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca; Eric L. Mills > Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > Thanks for this note Keith. > =20 > Given that 'Spring First Arrivals' is a new initiative and that there are c= ontent changes for NS Birds on the horizon, I think discussion is necessary.= Availability of data is much different now than during pre-eBird days. We h= ave to take this into account to know where to focus our efforts. > =20 > I do want to apologize to Eric regarding my earlier e-mail. I've known Eri= c as long as I've been a birder and I have nothing but respect for him (I kn= ow he knows that too). Lets work together and ensure that we focus our effor= ts on the most useful tasks.=20 > =20 > Alix Arthur d'Entremont > BSc Geomatics Engineering > =20 > 292 Abbott's Harbour Road=20 > Middle West Pubnico > Yarmouth Co., Nova Scotia > Canada B0W 2M0 > =20 > Phone: +1 902 762 2082 > Mobile: +1 902 307 0373 > e-mail: alixdentremont@hotmail.com > Bird Photography http://www.flickr.com/photos/alixd/ > Website http://alixdentremont.blogspot.ca/ > =20 >=20 > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beh= alf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com> > Sent: March 19, 2018 1:40 PM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals > =20 > I was quite shocked to read this Eric. Your tone seems over the top in cri= ticizing an initiative from a group of people who volunteered so much time a= nd effort to bring us this information. I did provide some data processing t= o them but I don=E2=80=99t consider myself part of the =E2=80=9Ccabal=E2=80=9D= so I can say that I think they are doing are great job in proving useful in= formation and I=E2=80=99ll be following it for sure. This info is something I= =E2=80=99ve been wanting for years and I=E2=80=99m glad someone is finally g= etting it done. > =20 > If a new group of eiders or scoters moves into an area in spring, how coul= d