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Here's a tip for determining if a flock of robins is made up of migrants or=
not. Look at the flock composition: if it is made up of both sexes and imm=
atures, it is certainly an overwintering flock, or at most has moved only a=
short distance (being in a multiflora thicket is another clue to local ori=
gin). if, on the other hand, you find a flock on your lawn, looking around =
and trying to feed voraciously, and all big bright males, they are spring m=
igrants. The same principle applies, with variations, for grackles: migrant=
flocks, entirely males, tend to show up in treetops in significant numbers=
just after arrival, displaying and calling frequently.
This is where field experience and local knowledge come in, as I suggested =
in a more general way in an earlier posting. It's not the kind of skill tha=
t will be acquired by just filling in an eBird checklist.
Sermon ended.
Eric
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com>
Sent: March 19, 2018 7:13:06 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
But no way to know if they were from out of province or elsewhere in the pr=
ovince. Probably out of province but there were groups of robins (up to 75)=
reported in King=92s County in February so we can=92t be certain
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of David <dwebster@glinx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:56:16 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Dear All,
Monday evening at 6:09 one of the Multiflora Rose bushes was mobbed by =
40-50 Robins and by 6:15 most had drifted elsewhere. Having not seen any in=
the yard previously this winter I think it is safe to assume new arrivals=
.
Yt, DSW, Kentville
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From: "Keith Lowe" <mythos25@live.com<mailto:mythos25@live.com>>
To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca>>
Sent: 3/19/2018 4:46:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
I better apologize to Eric too. To me my email wasn=92t strong, that was no=
t my intention while writing it but two people have written me now and it a=
ppeared to them that my email was certainly stronger than I intended. I fel=
t disappointment in Eric=92s post and felt it was belittling the effort but=
I think I also read more into that than Eric intended.
I mostly wanted to let the group know there were also those of us who appre=
ciated their effort. But =93disparage=94 Eric--never would I want to do tha=
t.
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Alix d'Entremont <alixdentremont@hotmail.com<mailto:alixdentremont@h=
otmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:19:34 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>; Eric L. Mills
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Thanks for this note Keith.
Given that 'Spring First Arrivals' is a new initiative and that there are c=
ontent changes for NS Birds on the horizon, I think discussion is necessary=
. Availability of data is much different now than during pre-eBird days. We=
have to take this into account to know where to focus our efforts.
I do want to apologize to Eric regarding my earlier e-mail. I've known Eric=
as long as I've been a birder and I have nothing but respect for him (I kn=
ow he knows that too). Lets work together and ensure that we focus our effo=
rts on the most useful tasks.
Alix Arthur d'Entremont
BSc Geomatics Engineering
292 Abbott's Harbour Road
Middle West Pubnico
Yarmouth Co., Nova Scotia
Canada B0W 2M0
Phone: +1 902 762 2082
Mobile: +1 902 307 0373
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Bird Photography http://www.flickr.com/photos/alixd/
Website http://alixdentremont.blogspot.ca/
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com<mailto:mythos25@live.com>>
Sent: March 19, 2018 1:40 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
I was quite shocked to read this Eric. Your tone seems over the top in crit=
icizing an initiative from a group of people who volunteered so much time a=
nd effort to bring us this information. I did provide some data processing =
to them but I don=92t consider myself part of the =93cabal=94 so I can say =
that I think they are doing are great job in proving useful information and=
I=92ll be following it for sure. This info is something I=92ve been wantin=
g for years and I=92m glad someone is finally getting it done.
If a new group of eiders or scoters moves into an area in spring, how could=
anyone know if they came from elsewhere in the province or not? You may be=
one of a few that would have a good idea on that but I don=92t think you c=
ould be certain.
Likewise with robins. There have been groups of hundreds of robins reported=
around the province this winter. If an avid birder recognizes a new a grou=
p or robins that moved into their patch, how could they possibly know if th=
ey overwintered in NS or not? And frankly what difference does it makes whe=
n it comes to robins. We have way too many that over winter to sort out whi=
ch ones didn=92t
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto