[NatureNS] Spring first arrivals

Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:40:21 +0000 (UTC)
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 Eric et al,=C2=A0
We're doing our best - this is the first incarnation of this style of data =
collection and analysis (first spring arrivals, I'm referring to); the exis=
ting list is not set in stone; it'll evolve, so..... be nice ;)=C2=A0

On the plus side; I learned a new word: "cabal": n.=C2=A0a secret political=
 clique or faction=C2=A0
-Andy




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Hello Nancy,




So lots of species - Common Eiders, loons, the Scoters, most common gulls, =
Robins, on and on - are excluded from this Citizen Science project.




I think that the anonymous cabal (I know who they are; I am just being face=
tious) that has established these criteria and=C2=A0 the list should think =
again. There are many good field birders in Nova Scotia who know their loca=
l patches very well and can make good informed judgements about what has ar=
rived and what has been around all winter.





With such a constipated list we will certainly miss new and significant inf=
ormation about many species. I don't think that is necessary and it is cert=
ainly not desirable.





Eric




Eric L. Mills

Lower Rose Bay

Lunenburg Co., NS

From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.com>
Sent: March 19, 2018 7:04:16 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals=C2=A0These no doubt are Sprin=
g First Arrivals, arriving via the route you mentioned. So I will use this =
opportunity to clarify some of the reasoning behind the species list on the=
 NSBS Spring First Arrivals table.=C2=A0http://www.nsbirdsociety.ca/library=
/resources/spring-first-arrivals
The reason these species are not part of this NSBS dataset: We have exclude=
d species who have significant overwintering populations in some part of NS=
 (see Conclusion section below table), to reduce any entries that require a=
ssumptions on our part. For example, did those RB Gulls get blown in from a=
 nearby wintering population? Or were the Lesser Black-backs (always a tong=
ue twister) ones already present in SW NS (probably not)? Even Baltimore Or=
ioles got nixed due to ambiguity.=C2=A0
NatureNS will be getting regular updates on Spring First Arrivals as the mi=
gration season progresses. So please post any sightings.=C2=A0
Nancy

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On Mar 18, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca> wrote:



Two that I believe qualify, with my justification:




Ring-billed Gull - March 18. 10 bright full adults roosting with Herring Gu=
lls off Privateer Park, Liverpool, Queens Co., were not present earlier. Th=
roughout the winter 1-2 Ring-bills, usually first-winter (occasionally adul=
ts) have been present.




Lesser Black-backed Gull - March 11. An adultgraellsii arrived among roosti=
ng Herring and Greater Black-backed Gulls off Privateer Park, Liverpool, Qu=
eens Co., slept for a while, and then headed off seaward. The timing is con=
sistent with northward movement from wintering areas in the southeastern US=
A (likely toward nesting areas in W Greenland or Iceland, although no doubt=
 by easy stages so early in the season).




Eric Mills





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            <div>Eric et al,&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>We're doing our best - this is the first incarnation of this style of data collection and analysis (first spring arrivals, I'm referring to); the existing list is not set in stone; it'll evolve, so..... be nice ;)&nbsp;<br><br>On the plus side; I learned a new word: "cabal": <i>n.&nbsp;<span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">a secret political clique or faction</span></i>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>-Andy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
            
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">So lots of species - Common Eiders, loons, the Scoters, most common gulls, Robins, on and on - are excluded from this Citizen Science project.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">I think that the anonymous cabal (I know who they are; I am just being facetious) that has established these criteria and&nbsp; the list should think again. There are many good field birders in Nova Scotia who know their local
 patches very well and can make good informed judgements about what has arrived and what has been around all winter.
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;">With such a constipated list we will certainly miss new and significant information about many species. I don't think that is necessary and it is certainly not desirable.
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