Spruce Budworm: was Re[2]: [NatureNS] Junco abundance

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Hi Paul, Nick & All,
     In case you don't understand Nick; I am with Paul on this one.
     The Budworm has been slowly building in Quebec and is sure to reach=20
here eventually. When that happens the commercial value of standing=20
Spruce and Fir will become negative. I don't have industry contacts but=20
suspect that the rumored (and perhaps factual) current high rate of=20
clear cutting is partly a reaction to the budworm threat. Native or not=20
it is a plague from an economic viewpoint. Yes it renews but so does=20
fire and clearcut. And want driven out-migration gives woodland to big=20
industry for a song.
     Back in the early 50s a common joke at Acadia ran as follows. What=20
is the difference between a specialist and an ecologist ? The Specialist=20
knows everything about nothing and the Ecologist knows nothing about=20
everything. Some things don't change.
Yt, DW. Kentville



------ Original Message ------
From: "Nick Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 1/23/2018 11:52:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Junco abundance

>First principle:
>Spruce Budworm is a native species and part of an ecological complex=20
>that until recently did not involve Homo sapiens.
>
>
>On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:18 AM,=20
>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca<rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>Well Eric and All Sat evening I was watching a program
>>on TV The Semaine Verte - I am not perfectly fluent in French
>>but I can follow. Its always a good program on farming, forestry, =20
>>fishing
>>and so on. A common sense program!
>>Anyway that one was on the Spruce Budworm in Quebec and how it
>>was spreading. No doubt the smaller birds had lots to eat in those=20
>>areas
>>where the budworm was common. When winter descended they would have
>>took off in masse and some found us in Nova Scotia.
>>The Budworm is a plague we could do without.
>>Enjoy the rain
>>Paul
>>>On January 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>Today, January 20, my son Chris and I drove from Brier Island to the=20
>>>Bridgewater area and to my home in Lower Rose Bay, Lunenburg Co., Our=20
>>>route was along Hwy 217 on Long Island and Digby Neck, along 101 to=20
>>>the Bear River turnoff, then across country via Bear River and the=20
>>>Virginia East Road to Hwy 8, thence south to South Brookfield and Hwy=20
>>>208, then W to Hwy 325 and south to Bridgewater and beyond - very=20
>>>roughly 220 km in total.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>There were Juncos along the whole route, going up from the roadsides=20
>>>in groups of 2-3 to more than 100 at a time. Our total was many=20
>>>hundreds, and likely in the thousands. I have seen numbers like these=20
>>>along that route in October, but January is most unusual.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Circumstantial evidence for sure, but I have no doubt that these=20
>>>birds are new arrivals in the province, probably related to stormy=20
>>>weather during the past few days in New Brunswick. Our feeders in=20
>>>Lower Rose Bay seemed to attract high numbers starting about the 16th=20
>>>or 17th, coinciding with the last snowfalls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Eric L. Mills
>>>
>>>Lower Rose Bay
>>>
>>>Lunenburg Co., NS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Dr. N.M.Hill
>Fern Hill Institute of Plant Conservation
>424 Bentley Road, Berwick, NS, B0P 1E0
>
>phone 902-698-0416
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v>Hi Paul, Nick &amp; All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 In case you don't unders=
tand Nick; I am with Paul on this one.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The Bu=
dworm has been slowly building in Quebec and is sure to reach here eventual=
ly. When that happens the commercial value of standing Spruce and Fir will=
 become negative. I don't have industry contacts but suspect that the rumore=
d (and perhaps factual) current high rate of clear cutting is partly a reac=
tion to the budworm threat. Native or not it is a plague from an economic v=
iewpoint. Yes it renews but so does fire and clearcut. And want driven out-=
migration gives woodland to big industry for a song.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 Back in the early 50s a common joke at Acadia ran as follows. What is t=
he difference between a specialist and an ecologist ? The Specialist knows=
 everything about nothing and the Ecologist knows nothing about everything.=
 Some things don't change.</div><div>Yt, DW. Kentville</div><div><br /></div=
><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "Nick Hill" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com">fernhill=
ns@gmail.com</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 1/23/2018 11:52:52 AM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Junco abundance</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"xba86506362de424"><blockquote cite=3D"CAOK1_GZULozS2pUiY53Ex2bNt=
Yo_6ewEeHZTZnCscpzVEG1quw@mail.gmail.com" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"">First principle:</=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"">Spruce Budworm is a native spec=
ies and part of an ecological complex that until recently did not involve H=
omo sapiens.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><br /></div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br /><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue,=
 Jan 23, 2018 at 11:18 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita=
.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul=
@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br /><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
   =20
=20
 =20
=20
 <div>
=20
  <div>
   Well Eric and All Sat evening I was watching a program
  </div>=20
  <div>
   on TV The Semaine Verte - I am not perfectly fluent in French<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   but I can follow. Its always a good program on farming, forestry,=C2=A0=
 fishing<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   and so on. A common sense program!<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Anyway that one was on the Spruce Budworm in Quebec and how it<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   was spreading. No doubt the smaller birds had lots to eat in those areas=
<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   where the budworm was common. When winter descended they would have<br /=
>
  </div>=20
  <div>
   took off in masse and some found us in Nova Scotia.<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   The Budworm is a plague we could do without.<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Enjoy the rain<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Paul<br />
  </div>=20
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blue;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
cite">
   On January 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM Eric Mills &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:E.Mills@=
Dal.Ca">E.Mills@Dal.Ca</a>&gt; wrote:
   <br />
   <br />=20
   <div id=3D"m_256023752921093042divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"color:#000=
000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" dir=3D"ltr">=
=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Today, January 20, my son =
Chris and I drove from Brier Island to the Bridgewater area and to my home =
in Lower Rose Bay, Lunenburg Co., Our route was along Hwy 217 on Long Isla=
nd and Digby Neck, along 101 to the Bear River turnoff, then across country =
via Bear River and the Virginia East Road to Hwy 8, thence south to South=
 Brookfield and Hwy 208, then W to Hwy 325 and south to Bridgewater and beyo=
nd - very roughly 220 km in total.</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">=C2=A0</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">There were Juncos along t=
he whole route, going up from the roadsides in groups of 2-3 to more than 1=
00 at a time. Our total was many hundreds, and likely in the thousands. I h=
ave seen numbers like these along that route in October, but January is mos=
t unusual.</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">=C2=A0</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Circumstantial evidence f=
or sure, but I have no doubt that these birds are new arrivals in the provi=
nce, probably related to stormy weather during the past few days in New Bru=
nswick. Our feeders in Lower Rose Bay seemed to attract high numbers starti=
ng about the 16th or 17th, coinciding with the last snowfalls.</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">=C2=A0</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Eric L. Mills</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Lower Rose Bay</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Lunenburg Co., NS</p>=20
    <p style=3D"margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">=C2=A0</p>=20
   </div>=20
  </blockquote>=20
  <div>
   <br />=C2=A0
  </div>
=20
</div>
</blockquote></div><br /><br clear=3D"all" /><div><br /></div>-- <br /><div =
class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Dr. N.M.Hill<=
br />Fern Hill Institute of Plant Conservation<br />424 Bentley Road, Berwi=
ck, NS, B0P 1E0<br /><br />phone 902-698-0416</div>
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