Re[4]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose

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Hi Paul & All,
     That is interesting. Along about 2005 I noticed that it was=20
effective in slowing coastal erosion near Yarmouth and wondered about=20
the potential for vitamin C rich jelly, especially if bred and selected=20
for this use.
YT, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 12/6/2017 3:50:59 PM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose

>Well Jane Rugosa is from Asia. A hardy rose
>and has had a lot of uses in the past - like crossing with
>less hardy roses for better flowers. As you say widely
>planted and the hips were valuable in the past as a source
>of vitamins. Jellies and so on. My Grandmother used
>to make Rose Honey - I don't know how - but it was good.
>A very valuable member of the rose family.
>Do you know what the Natives called R. virginiana the common
>wild rose? I would put it here but the word police would block the=20
>message!
>Enjoy the rain
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>>On December 6, 2017 at 2:24 PM David&Jane Schlosberg=20
>><dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>What about rosa rugosa?  Is it native?  (Not, according to Wiki)  It=20
>>seems at least as widespread as multiflora.
>>
>>Jane
>>
>>
>>
>>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20
>>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of=20
>>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca
>>Sent: December 6, 2017 1:28 PM
>>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose
>>
>>
>>
>>   Most store roses are grafted unto a rootstock David.
>>
>>The rootstock will be undefined in most cases but we know
>>
>>Multiflora roses are popular for good reasons! The grafted
>>
>>part - top - will usually be inferior in hardiness and other aspects=20
>>to
>>
>>the rootstock so the top dies - the roots send up shoots and then
>>
>>you have a Multiflora rose ready to go!
>>
>>You can obtain roses on their own roots - hardy roses that is  - but
>>
>>not at the local store!
>>
>>Enjoy the rain - it will help the roses.
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>>On December 6, 2017 at 10:41 AM David Patriquin=20
>>><davidgpatriquin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Another "David" here. An interesting, worthwhile debate. A few=20
>>>thoughts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Multiflora rose, while it had been here 100 years and more, seems to=20
>>>have taken off recently as an invasive in NS (or in a new wave of=20
>>>invasiveness)  sometime after 2000. Did that stem from threshold=20
>>>changes in disturbance or vehicles of movement, or did a particular=20
>>>line have traits that make it especially invasive (or some=20
>>>combination of the two); it seems a genetic study could sort that=20
>>>out. Are there less invasive strains that could be used as=20
>>>ornamentals/to attract and feed birds?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have conducted some documentation of the spread of R. multiflora in=20
>>>the Halifax area, Point Pleasant Park in particular. See=20
>>>versicolor.ca/multiflorarose
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We might  keep in mind that about 1/3 of our flora is of exotic=20
>>>origin at least in recent centuries, and mostl of these species are=20
>>>plants of disturbed habitats, perhaps all (except (glossy buckthorn?)=20
>>>are not shade tolerant; their introduction since European=20
>>>colonizations reflects  the greater abundance of ruderal species in=20
>>>Europe & Asia because of a longer history of extensive human=20
>>>disturbance than in NA. On the whole these immigrants  perform=20
>>>important ecological functions and do not seriously threaten native=20
>>>plant communities. (Surely the loss of weedy species under our now=20
>>>super efficient glyphosate weed control is a big factor in decline of=20
>>>many species). Perhaps where they do threaten native plant=20
>>>communities in NS that is a transient process as it likely was for=20
>>>many of the exotic species for a period after they first arrived.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>NS is likely species depauperate because of the short time since the=20
>>>glaciers retreated and our relative isolation as a peninsula on the=20
>>>Atlantic coast, so in a sense we are "open for business" when it=20
>>>comes to immigration of new plant species. I think we should be very=20
>>>actively conducting Assisted Migration, particularly for forest=20
>>>species, to increase species diversity and resilience in the face of=20
>>>climate change.  Anyway, a few thoughts for the mix.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>PS: I have spent some time cutting back multiflora rose  near The=20
>>>Bluff Trail trailhead, as it is still not abundant along the rails to=20
>>>trail BLT, and so far there are no exotics once you get 5 m into the=20
>>>trail, so it takes little effort at this point to keep it out. I do=20
>>>not have R multiflora in my back yard but if I could obtain a=20
>>>non-invasive type, I would welcome it both as an ornamental and as=20
>>>bird food.  I do not keep bird feeders because they  encourage=20
>>>everything I don't want, rats, squirrels and pigeons amongst them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>=20
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why do birds have the only meaningful vote? That is simply=20
>>>>ridiculous, David. Do our own native plants not have such a vote? I=20
>>>>suspect that they would vote them "off the island", and occupy the=20
>>>>space themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have actually thought about the SI Ponies. If SI is designated an=20
>>>>historic site (is it?), then the ponies are part of the culture.=20
>>>>There is no fear of them spreading anywhere. MR - is invasive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We need to look at the big picture...not just that MR is "good for=20
>>>>the birds" (when in fact it is only good for some birds). Our native=20
>>>>roses are good for the birds in this context, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Randy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_________________________________
>>>>RF Lauff
>>>>Way in the boonies of
>>>>Antigonish County, NS.
>>>>
>>>>On 5 December 2017 at 18:40, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Randy & All,
>>>>>
>>>>>     In such matters the birds have the only meaningful vote and=20
>>>>>they have made their approval of MR very clear. In late winter, on=20
>>>>>calm sunny days, the nearby MR patch looks like Grand Central=20
>>>>>Station; much coming and going and the lawn becomes sprinkled with=20
>>>>>closely spaced red splotches.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     I suspect you are just pulling our leg Randy so in that vein, I=
=20
>>>>>suggest you should get that program to eradicate the Sable Island=20
>>>>>ponies in motion and when they are history, move on to eradicating=20
>>>>>MR; my patches dead last.
>>>>>
>>>>>YT, DW, Kentville
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>>>
>>>>>From: "Randy Lauff" < randy.lauff@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>To: "NatureNS" < naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent: 12/5/2017 6:14:14 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why not, Paul?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Randy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Dec 4, 2017 4:05 PM, " rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" <=20
>>>>>>rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't think so Randy!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Enjoy the fall
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Paul
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On December 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM Randy Lauff <=20
>>>>>>>>randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It would be great if this introduced plant would be eradicated.=20
>>>>>>>>Let native plants feed the birds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Randy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_________________________________
>>>>>>>>RF Lauff
>>>>>>>>Way in the boonies of
>>>>>>>>Antigonish County, NS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 3 December 2017 at 09:01, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Nancy & All,
>>>>>>>>>     It is especially appreciated in late winter to judge from=20
>>>>>>>>>bird activity in the nearby bushes and red splotches in the=20
>>>>>>>>>snow. It would be great if the thornless strain could become=20
>>>>>>>>>predominant.
>>>>>>>>>YT, DW, Kentville
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>>>>>>>From: "nancy dowd" < nancypdowd@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>>>>>>>Sent: 12/3/2017 6:50:39 AM
>>>>>>>>>Subject: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Overlooking its faults, Multiflora Rose is a seriously=20
>>>>>>>>>>bird-friendly shrub judging by the number of pictures on the=20
>>>>>>>>>>NSBS Facebook page lately showing regular and unusual birds in=20
>>>>>>>>>>its branches and feeding on the rosehips. One has to wonder if=20
>>>>>>>>>>it=E2=80=99s spread has contributed to the number of migrants=20
>>>>>>>>>>lingering later into the Fall and Winter? It certainly seems=20
>>>>>>>>>>to help them survive at least.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Nancy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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 </head><body><div>Hi Paul &amp; All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 That is inter=
esting. Along about 2005 I noticed that it was effective in slowing coastal =
erosion near Yarmouth and wondered about the potential for vitamin C rich=
 jelly, especially if bred and selected for this use.</div><div>YT, DW, Kent=
ville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.s=
ympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 12/6/2017 3:50:59 PM</div>
<div>Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"x4b47bfa0eab843b"><blockquote cite=3D"6204243.605401.15125898592=
44.open-xchange@webmail.bellaliant.net" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">

=20
  <div>
   Well Jane Rugosa is from Asia. A hardy rose
  </div>=20
  <div>
   and has had a lot of uses in the past - like crossing with<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   less hardy roses for better flowers. As you say widely<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   planted and the hips were valuable in the past as a source<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   of vitamins. Jellies and so on. My Grandmother used<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   to make Rose Honey - I don't know how - but it was good.
   <br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   A very valuable member of the rose family.
   <br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Do you know what the Natives called R. virginiana the common<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   wild rose? I would put it here but the word police would block the messa=
ge!<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Enjoy the rain<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   Paul<br />
  </div>=20
  <div>
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <div>
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <div>
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <div>
   =C2=A0
  </div>=20
  <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-co=
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   <!-- <![endif] -->On December 6, 2017 at 2:24 PM David&amp;Jane Schlosbe=
rg &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatic=
o.ca</a>&gt; wrote:
   <br />
   <br />=20
   <div class=3D"WordSection1">=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">What about rosa rugosa?=C2=A0 Is it native?=C2=
=A0 (Not, according to Wiki)=C2=A0 It seems at least as widespread as multi=
flora.</p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jane</p>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
    <div>=20
     <div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid non=
e none; border-color: #e1e1e1 currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0=
cm; border-image: none;">=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:natur=
ens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=
=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>=
] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong><a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca=
">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a><br /><strong>Sent:</strong> December 6, 201=
7 1:28 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.=
ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: Re[2]: [=
NatureNS] Multiflora Rose</p>=20
     </div>=20
    </div>=20
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 <span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">Most=
 store roses are grafted unto a rootstock David.</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">The rootstoc=
k will be undefined in most cases but we know</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">Multiflora r=
oses are popular for good reasons! The grafted</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">part - top - =
will usually be inferior in hardiness and other aspects to</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">the rootstoc=
k so the top dies - the roots send up shoots and then</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">you have a M=
ultiflora rose ready to go!</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">You can obta=
in roses on their own roots - hardy roses that is=C2=A0 - but</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">not at the l=
ocal store!</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">Enjoy the ra=
in - it will help the roses.</span></p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">Paul</span><=
/p>=20
    </div>=20
    <div>=20
     <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt;">=C2=A0</span=
></p>=20
    </div>=20
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rgin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0cm;">=20
     <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=3D"MsoNormal">On December 6, 2=
017 at 10:41 AM David Patriquin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:davidgpatriquin@gmail=
.com">davidgpatriquin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
     <div>=20
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Another "David" here. An interesting, worthwhi=
le debate. A few thoughts.</p>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Multiflora rose, while it had been here 100 y=
ears and more, seems to have taken off recently as an invasive in NS (or in =
a new wave of invasiveness)=C2=A0 sometime after 2000. Did that stem from=
 threshold changes in disturbance or vehicles of movement, or did a particul=
ar line have traits that make it especially invasive (or some combination o=
f the two); it seems a genetic study could sort that out. Are there less in=
vasive strains that could be used as ornamentals/to attract and feed birds?=
</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have conducted some documentation of the sp=
read of R. multiflora in the Halifax area, Point Pleasant Park in particula=
r. See <a href=3D"http://versicolor.ca/multiflorarose">versicolor.ca/multif=
lorarose</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">We might=C2=A0 keep in mind that about 1/3 of =
our flora is of exotic origin at least in recent centuries, and mostl of t=
hese species are plants of disturbed habitats, perhaps all (except (glossy=
 buckthorn?) are not shade tolerant; their introduction since European colon=
izations reflects=C2=A0 the greater abundance of ruderal species in Europe=
 &amp; Asia because of a longer history of extensive human disturbance than=
 in NA. On the whole these immigrants=C2=A0 perform important ecological fun=
ctions and do not seriously threaten native plant communities. (Surely the=
 loss of weedy species under our now super efficient glyphosate weed control =
is a big factor in decline of many species). Perhaps where they do threate=
n native plant communities in NS that is a transient process as it likely w=
as for many of the exotic species for a period after they first arrived.=C2=
=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">NS is likely species depauperate because of t=
he short time since the glaciers retreated and our relative isolation as a=
 peninsula on the Atlantic coast, so in a sense we are "open for business" w=
hen it comes to immigration of new plant species. I think we should be very =
actively conducting Assisted Migration, particularly for forest species, t=
o increase species diversity and resilience in the face of climate change.=
=C2=A0 Anyway, a few thoughts for the mix.=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">PS: I have spent some time cutting back multi=
flora rose=C2=A0 near The Bluff Trail trailhead, as it is still not abundan=
t along the rails to trail BLT, and so far there are no exotics once you ge=
t 5 m into the trail, so it takes little effort at this point to keep it ou=
t. I do not have R multiflora in my back yard but if I could obtain a non-i=
nvasive type, I would welcome it both as an ornamental and as bird food.=C2=
=A0 I do not keep bird feeders because they=C2=A0 encourage everything I do=
n't want, rats, squirrels and pigeons amongst them.</p>=20
      </div>=20
      <div>=20
       <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
       <div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Randy Lauff=
 &lt;randy.lauff@gmail.com&gt;=
 wrote:</p>=20
        <blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border=
-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor curre=
ntColor #cccccc; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; border-image: none; margin-right=
: 0cm; margin-left: 4.8pt;">=20
         <div>=20
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why do birds have the only meaningful vote=
? That is simply ridiculous, David. Do our own native plants not have such=
 a vote? I suspect that they would vote them "off the island", and occupy th=
e space themselves.</p>=20
          <div>=20
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
          </div>=20
          <div>=20
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have actually thought about the SI Poni=
es. If SI is designated an historic site (is it?), then the ponies are part =
of the culture. There is no fear of them spreading anywhere. MR - is invas=
ive.</p>=20
          </div>=20
          <div>=20
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
          </div>=20
          <div>=20
           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">We need to look at the big picture...not=
 just that MR is "good for the birds" (when in fact it is only good for <em>=
some</em>=C2=A0birds). Our native roses are good for the birds in this cont=
ext, too.</p>=20
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           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
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           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Randy</p>=20
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            <p class=3D"MsoNormal">_________________________________ <br />=
RF Lauff <br />Way in the boonies of <br />Antigonish County, NS.</p>=20
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            <div>=20
             <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 5 December 2017 at 18:40, David &lt;=
dwebster@glinx.com&gt; wrote:</p>=
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order-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor=
 currentColor #cccccc; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; border-image: none; margin-=
right: 0cm; margin-left: 4.8pt;">=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Randy &amp; All,</p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 In such matters the bi=
rds have the only meaningful vote and they have made their approval of MR v=
ery clear. In late winter, on calm sunny days, the nearby MR patch looks li=
ke Grand Central Station; much coming and going and the lawn becomes sprink=
led with closely spaced red splotches.=C2=A0</p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I suspect you are just =
pulling our leg Randy so in that vein, I suggest you should get that progr=
am to eradicate the Sable Island ponies in motion and when they are history=
, move on to eradicating MR; my patches dead last.</p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">YT, DW, Kentville</p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
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                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">------ Original Message ------</p>=
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">From: "Randy Lauff" &lt; <a href=
=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt;</p>=20
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">To: "NatureNS" &lt; <a href=3D"mai=
lto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</p>=20
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent: 12/5/2017 6:14:14 PM</p>=20
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                 <div>=20
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Multiflora =
Rose</p>=20
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                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
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                 <div id=3D"m_8762189179649334779m_-4318979542369219156x035=
04d5265c9484">=20
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why not, Paul?</p>=20
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                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Randy=C2=A0</p>=20
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                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
                    <div>=20
                     <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 4, 2017 4:05 PM, " <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a>" &lt; =
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca=
&gt; wrote:</p>=20
                     <blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium mediu=
m 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor curre=
ntColor currentColor #cccccc; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; border-image: none; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 4.8pt;">=20
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                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don't think so Randy!</p>=
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                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Enjoy the fall</p>=20
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                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Paul</p>=20
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                       <blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium med=
ium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor cur=
rentColor currentColor blue; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 8pt; border-image: none;=
 margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; margin-left: 0cm;">=20
                        <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">On December 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM Randy Lauff &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:randy=
.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>=20
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                         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">It would be great if this i=
ntroduced plant would be eradicated. Let native plants feed the birds.</p>=
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                           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">_________________________=
________ <br />RF Lauff <br />Way in the boonies of <br />Antigonish County=
, NS.</p>=20
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                         <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>=20
                         <div>=20
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 3 December 2017 at 09:0=
1, David &lt;dwebster@glinx.com&g=
t; wrote:</p>=20
                          <blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium=
 medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor=
 currentColor currentColor #cccccc; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; border-image:=
 none; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 4.8pt;">=20
                           <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Nancy &amp; All, <br /=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It is especially appreciated in late winter to judge from bi=
rd activity in the nearby bushes and red splotches in the snow. It would be =
great if the thornless strain could become predominant. <br />YT, DW, Kent=
ville</p>=20
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                            <div>=20
                             <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><br /><br />------ Original Message ------ <br />From: "nancy dowd" =
&lt; nancypdowd@gmail.com&gt;=
 <br />To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a> <br />Sent: 12/3/2017 6:50:39 AM <br />Subject: [NatureNS] Multiflora =
Rose</p>=20
                             <blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medi=
um medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentCol=
or currentColor currentColor #cccccc; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; border-imag=
e: none; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 4.8pt;">=20
                              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Overlooking its faults=
, Multiflora Rose is a seriously bird-friendly shrub judging by the number=
 of pictures on the NSBS Facebook page lately showing regular and unusual bi=
rds in its branches and feeding on the rosehips. One has to wonder if it=E2=
=80=99s spread has contributed to the number of migrants lingering later in=
to the Fall and Winter? It certainly seems to help them survive at least. <=
br /><br />Nancy <br /><br />Sent from my iPad</p>=20
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