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PM, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:rita.pa --------=_MB08CAC335-75E3-40C2-AD89-A303D4A3A146 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Randy & All, Why do birds have the only meaningful vote ? They vote with their=20 beaks. They come, they eat, they sow. Our native roses do not spread=20 rapidly. I wonder why. The only constant in vegetative cover is change. For some 50 years I= =20 have recorded plants which "invaded" our postage stamp lot. Most stick=20 around for a time and then are displaced by something else. On a numerical scale the potential damage inflicted by MR is -10^5;=20 way less than zero. Damage inflicted by human activity more than 10^10.=20 We all should aspire to a minimum footprint. Thanks for the soapbox Randy but I must go. Yt, DW, Kentville ------ Original Message ------ From: "Randy Lauff" <randy.lauff@gmail.com> To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: 12/6/2017 8:49:35 AM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose >Why do birds have the only meaningful vote? That is simply ridiculous,=20 >David. Do our own native plants not have such a vote? I suspect that=20 >they would vote them "off the island", and occupy the space themselves. > >I have actually thought about the SI Ponies. If SI is designated an=20 >historic site (is it?), then the ponies are part of the culture. There=20 >is no fear of them spreading anywhere. MR - is invasive. > >We need to look at the big picture...not just that MR is "good for the=20 >birds" (when in fact it is only good for some birds). Our native roses=20 >are good for the birds in this context, too. > >Randy > >_________________________________ >RF Lauff >Way in the boonies of >Antigonish County, NS. > >On 5 December 2017 at 18:40, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: >>Hi Randy & All, >> In such matters the birds have the only meaningful vote and they=20 >>have made their approval of MR very clear. In late winter, on calm=20 >>sunny days, the nearby MR patch looks like Grand Central Station; much=20 >>coming and going and the lawn becomes sprinkled with closely spaced=20 >>red splotches. >> >> I suspect you are just pulling our leg Randy so in that vein, I=20 >>suggest you should get that program to eradicate the Sable Island=20 >>ponies in motion and when they are history, move on to eradicating MR;=20 >>my patches dead last. >>YT, DW, Kentville >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From: "Randy Lauff" <randy.lauff@gmail.com> >>To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >>Sent: 12/5/2017 6:14:14 PM >>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose >> >>>Why not, Paul? >>>Randy >>> >>>On Dec 4, 2017 4:05 PM, "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca"=20 >>><rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>>I don't think so Randy! >>>>Enjoy the fall >>>>Paul >>>> >>>>>On December 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com>=20 >>>>>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>It would be great if this introduced plant would be eradicated. Let=20 >>>>>native plants feed the birds. >>>>> >>>>>Randy >>>>> >>>>>_________________________________ >>>>>RF Lauff >>>>>Way in the boonies of >>>>>Antigonish County, NS. >>>>> >>>>>On 3 December 2017 at 09:01, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: >>>>>>Hi Nancy & All, >>>>>> It is especially appreciated in late winter to judge from bird= =20 >>>>>>activity in the nearby bushes and red splotches in the snow. It=20 >>>>>>would be great if the thornless strain could become predominant. >>>>>>YT, DW, Kentville >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>From: "nancy dowd" < nancypdowd@gmail.com> >>>>>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>>>>>Sent: 12/3/2017 6:50:39 AM >>>>>>Subject: [NatureNS] Multiflora Rose >>>>>> >>>>>>>Overlooking its faults, Multiflora Rose is a seriously=20 >>>>>>>bird-friendly shrub judging by the number of pictures on the NSBS=20 >>>>>>>Facebook page lately showing regular and unusual birds in its=20 >>>>>>>branches and feeding on the rosehips. One has to wonder if it=E2=80= =99s=20 >>>>>>>spread has contributed to the number of migrants lingering later=20 >>>>>>>into the Fall and Winter? It certainly seems to help them survive=20 >>>>>>>at least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Nancy >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> > --------=_MB08CAC335-75E3-40C2-AD89-A303D4A3A146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"utf-16"?><html><head><style id=3D"css_sty= les" type=3D"text/css"><!--blockquote.cite { margin-left: 5px; margin-right= : 0px; padding-left: 10px; padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #ccccc= c } blockquote.cite2 {margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 10px;= padding-right:0px; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; margin-top: 3px; padding= -top: 0px; } a img { border: 0px; } ol, ul { list-style-position: inside }=20 body { font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 12pt; }--></style></head><body><di= v>Hi Randy & All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Why do birds have the only me= aningful vote ? They vote with their beaks. They come, they eat, they sow.= Our native roses do not spread rapidly. I wonder why.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0The only constant in vegetative cover is change. For s= ome 50 years I have recorded plants which "invaded" our postage stamp lot.= Most stick around for a time and then are displaced by something else.=C2= =A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On a numerical scale the potential damage infli= cted by MR is -10^5; way less tha