Re[2]: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton

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Hi Ron,
     Woodlots, as with most matters, are best managed with an open mind=20
so one is free to react to circumstances as they arise; unconstrained by=20
mental dogma. For many years I took the leave it alone approach on one=20
woodlot and that turned out to be a disaster; many large trees over and=20
hidden in a jungle of fir regrowth such that it would be foolhardy to=20
walk there without a chainsaw.
     By extracting only selected trees for firewood from overstocked=20
areas one has the highly unusual situation of having your cake and=20
eating it too; heat with zero net carbon release (and in best situations=20
probably negative carbon release).  When trees are freed of excessive=20
competition in an otherwise  favorable context they will often capture=20
more carbon per year than the two or three initial trees combined.
     Much has been written about forests capturing carbon permanently if=20
they are left alone; nope. Forests burn and whatever dies in a forest=20
will eventually be released as carbon. The only way to have that cake=20
and eat it too is by careful thinning of overstocked stands.
     And like it or not, a woodlot may require some cutting when trees=20
blow over across roads. In the North Alton lot trees are still going=20
over which were weakened in Dec 2013 and by Arthur in 2014.
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 8/31/2017 1:23:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton

>I find that arguments over nature vs. manicured, (unnecessarily)=20
>managed property can happen even within family!
>
>
>
>Otherwise, our TREPA has been encouraging municipal governments to=20
>strengthen protections for shoreline properties for some time. =20
>Municipality of Yarmouth has had a by-law in place since 2014, limiting=20
>any developments within 40 feet of a water body to the bare minimum=20
>necessary.
>
>
>
>I think it has had some effect, but not enough, and enforcement is a=20
>challenge.  I long for the day when we will have adequate provincial=20
>regulations limiting what people can do to shoreline zones above the=20
>high water mark.
>
>
>
>Guess we=E2=80=99ll need a few more blue-green algae blooms or muddy lakes=
=20
>before that happens.
>
>
>
>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20
>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Ron Wilson
>Sent: August 31, 2017 12:52 PM
>To: Nature NS
>Cc: David Webster
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton
>
>
>
>David
>
>
>
>Reminds me of a gentleman who was recently looking to purchase our=20
>house and cherished woodlot.
>
>
>
>I was walking him through the woods trails and he commented on what=20
>trees needed to come down ( strike 1)
>
>Then his wife commented how they may be able to get the ride on mower=20
>up into the woods to keep the weeds down ( strike 2)
>
>The on the way out he said he would be damning up the brook to create a=20
>pond - I suggested that he may need a water course alteration permit=20
>for such a thing and his reply was " no- you just do it - if you get=20
>caught you just get a slap on the wrist- they won't do nothing anyways"=20
>(strike 3)
>
>
>
>Fortunately another couple with a keen interest in nature are=20
>purchasing the property. Such a relief.
>
>
>
>Ron Wilson
>
>Somerset NS
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:45 PM, David <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>
>Dear All,                                Aug 28, 2017
>
>     I had a pleasant and unhurried walk yesterday with a friend along=20
>most of the pick and shovel roads in the North Alton woodlot. And the=20
>timing could not have better.
>
>     As the saying goes "Its an ill wind that blows no good". Perhaps=20
>due to the cool summer with frequent rains, the early morning shower on=20
>Sunday or the combination (or unknown causes; e.g. low temperatures=20
>have likely have made snakes less active leading to more Froglets)=20
>those roads were alive with small Wood Frogs (about 1 cm long) and=20
>Fleshy Fungi.
>
>     Typically I see from one to five adult Wood Frogs there per year=20
>but have previously never seen any young ones. And there are usually=20
>some fleshy fungi in season but the diversity yesterday was highly=20
>exceptional.
>
>     I made most of these roads more than 30 years ago and have rarely=20
>been back there in the last 10 (so I sometimes don't recognize=20
>sections); trees grow and disturbed soil heals so these roads may have=20
>entered an "old growth" woods road stage with near maximum diversity.=20
>As a bonus I noticed a new plant Osmunda regalis; Royal Fern (drawing=20
>on memory, the two page printout is hiding somewhere and that computer=20
>is down).
>
>     For those who live nearby and have time to absorb and appreciate=20
>natural magic you could do worse than visit this woodlot just after a=20
>light rain. On average, SE is in, NW is out; a compass helps in cloudy=20
>weather. If you get turned around follow roads to near the SE corner to=20
>find a road which leads Easterly to an adjacent lot which has a wide=20
>graveled road leading  NW to out.
>
>     And I have an axe to grind. I want to protect these woods from ever=
=20
>becoming a residential or commercial wasteland and some support from=20
>friends of nature might help to swing the balance. And the threat is=20
>real. I had a call last year from a potential buyer who was=20
>disappointed to learn it was still  in woodland (he had seen it on the=20
>property database) but looked on the bright with a "it would not take=20
>long to flatten it" comment.
>
>Yt, DW, Kentville
>
>
>
>
>
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}--></style></head><body><div>Hi Ron,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Woodlots, as=
 with most matters, are best managed with an open mind so one is free to rea=
ct to circumstances as they arise; unconstrained by mental dogma. For many=
 years I took the leave it alone approach on one woodlot and that turned out =
to be a disaster; many large trees over and hidden in a jungle of fir regr=
owth such that it would be foolhardy to walk there without a chainsaw.</div=
><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 By extracting only selected trees for firewood from ove=
rstocked areas one has the highly unusual situation of having your cake and =
eating it too; heat with zero net carbon release (and in best situations p=
robably negative carbon release). =C2=A0When trees are freed of excessive c=
ompetition in an otherwise =C2=A0favorable context they will often capture=
 more carbon per year than the two or three initial trees combined.</div><di=
v>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Much has been written about forests capturing carbon perman=
ently if they are left alone; nope. Forests burn and whatever dies in a for=
est will eventually be released as carbon. The only way to have that cake a=
nd eat it too is by careful thinning of overstocked stands.</div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 And like it or not, a woodlot may require some cutting when tree=
s blow over across roads. In the North Alton lot trees are still going over =
which were weakened in Dec 2013 and by Arthur in 2014.=C2=A0</div><div>Yt, =
DW, Kentville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "John and Nhung" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nh=
ungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 8/31/2017 1:23:07 PM</div>
<div>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton</div><div><br /></di=
v>
<div id=3D"x0a33309f77a0462"><blockquote cite=3D"000901d32275$6e47beb0$4ad7=
3c10$@eastlink.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497=
D">I find that arguments over nature vs. manicured, (unnecessarily) managed =
property can happen even within family!=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns=
:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#=
1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Otherwise, our TREPA has been encouraging m=
unicipal governments to strengthen protections for shoreline properties for =
some time.=C2=A0 Municipality of Yarmouth has had a by-law in place since=
 2014, limiting any developments within 40 feet of a water body to the bare=
 minimum necessary.=C2=A0 <o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think=
 it has had some effect, but not enough, and enforcement is a challenge.=C2=
=A0 I long for the day when we will have adequate provincial regulations li=
miting what people can do to shoreline zones above the high water mark.<o:p =
xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Guess we=E2=80=99ll need a few mo=
re blue-green algae blooms or muddy lakes before that happens.<o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F=
497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.=
ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens=
-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Wilson<br /><b>Sent:</b> =
August 31, 2017 12:52 PM<br /><b>To:</b> Nature NS<br /><b>Cc:</b> David W=
ebster<br /><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Woods walk in North Alton<o:p xm=
lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"=
#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">David<o:p xmlns:=
o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<o:p xmlns=
:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Reminds me of a gent=
leman who was recently looking to purchase our house and cherished woodlot.=
<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:=
o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I was walking hi=
m through the woods trails and he commented on what trees needed to come do=
wn ( strike 1)<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Then his wife commented how they may be able to get the ride on mo=
wer up into the woods to keep the weeds down ( strike 2)<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#un=
known"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The on the way out he sa=
id he would be damning up the brook to create a pond - I suggested that he=
 may need a water course alteration permit for such a thing and his reply wa=
s " no- you just do it - if you get caught you just get a slap on the wrist=
- they won't do nothing anyways" (strike 3)<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Fortunately another couple with a ke=
en interest in nature are purchasing the property. Such a relief.<o:p xmlns=
:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D=
"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Wilson<o:p =
xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Somerset=
 NS=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 8:45 PM, David &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear All, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Aug 28, 2017<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I had a pleasant and unhurried walk=
 yesterday with a friend along most of the pick and shovel roads in the Nort=
h Alton woodlot. And the timing could not have better.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unkn=
own"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As the sayin=
g goes "Its an ill wind that blows no good". Perhaps due to the cool summer =
with frequent rains, the early morning shower on Sunday or the combination =
(or unknown causes; e.g. low temperatures have likely have made snakes les=
s active leading to more Froglets) those roads were alive with small Wood F=
rogs (about 1 cm long) and Fleshy Fungi.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Typically I see from one t=
o five adult Wood Frogs there per year but have previously never seen any y=
oung ones. And there are usually some fleshy fungi in season but the divers=
ity yesterday was highly exceptional.=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I made most o=
f these roads more than 30 years ago and have rarely been back there in the =
last 10 (so I sometimes don't recognize sections); trees grow and disturbe=
d soil heals so these roads may have entered an "old growth" woods road sta=
ge with near maximum diversity. As a bonus I noticed a new plant Osmunda re=
galis; Royal Fern (drawing on memory, the two page printout is hiding somew=
here and that computer is down).<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For those who live nearby and have =
time to absorb and appreciate natural magic you could do worse than visit=
 this woodlot just after a light rain. On average, SE is in, NW is out; a co=
mpass helps in cloudy weather. If you get turned around follow roads to nea=
r the SE corner to find a road which leads Easterly to an adjacent lot whic=
h has a wide graveled road leading =C2=A0NW to out.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown=
"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 And I have an a=
xe to grind. I want to protect these woods from ever becoming a residential =
or commercial wasteland and some support from friends of nature might help =
to swing the balance. And the threat is real. I had a call last year from=
 a potential buyer who was disappointed to learn it was still =C2=A0in woodl=
and (he had seen it on the property database) but looked on the bright with =
a "it would not take long to flatten it" comment.=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#un=
known"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yt, DW, Kentville<o:p xm=
lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p></div></div></blockquo=
te></div>
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