[NatureNS] Wooly Worm Caterpillar

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Hi Jim & All,   =20
    I expect many use a capital A at the start of arctic (which means =
northern; derived from Greek word for Bear with reference to Ursa Major) =
because the Arctic Circle does have capital letters at the start; it =
being a defined geographic feature.
    But coming back full circle it is fair to ask when and why the big =
bear became associated with north. The Norse would certainly have known =
about Polar Bears before they started trade routes, or trade chains, =
down to the Middle East (not sure how early but early Bronze Age). Could =
the tales of big bears in the north have been incorporated into sky =
charts as Ursa Major ?=20
    Perhaps the documentary refers to recent studies of the life cycle; =
14 seasons then vs. 8 seasons now. It would also likely depend upon =
microclimate.=20
Yt, DW, Kentville
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jim Wolford=20
  To: naturens=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2016 3:28 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [NatureNS] Wooly Worm Caterpillar


  The isabella moth=92s woolly-bear caterpillar is black at both ends =
and brown in the middle.  I think the myth says that the amount of black =
is related to the severity of the winter (or the opposite??), but I read =
somewhere that the relative amounts of black and brown are related to =
aging of the caterpillar.


  Regarding Don MacNeill=92s note, I think I have seen the same =
documentary showing the arctic woolly-bear caterpillar (all one colour, =
sort of reddish brown), which is another tiger moth like the isabella =
moth (family Arctiidae) =97 decades ago Dr. Olga Kukal at Acadia Biology =
Dept. studied the arctic species in the high arctic (why is arctic =
usually capitalized by everyone?), perhaps at Lake Hazen?  And she =
determined that this particular caterpillar requires 14 =93summers=94 in =
order to grow enough to obtain the size and nutrients for forming a =
pupa/cocoon and then an adult moth, before laying some eggs and starting =
over.  The documentary claimed that this life cycle was much shorter, =
about 8 years?


  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.=20



  Begin forwarded message:


    From: Don MacNeill <donmacneill@bellaliant.net>

    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Wooly Worm Caterpillar

    Date: February 9, 2016 at 9:28:49 AM AST

    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca

    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca



    From what I remember, the orange portion was shorter, with a lot of =
black.  This would mean a harsh winter.  However, since I don't know in =
what year the video was taken, or the specific geographic area, the =
information isn't of much use.

    Don


    Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net
    On 09/02/2016 9:00 AM, Nicholas Hill wrote:

      What did he predict this winter to be and what's the rationale on =
looking at the wooly worm as a sign?

      On Feb 9, 2016 7:15 AM, "Don MacNeill" =
<donmacneill@bellaliant.net> wrote:

        A program on TV last night showed great time-lapse footage of =
this.  A Wooly Bear goes under a rock in the Arctic as winter =
approaches.  Its heart stops and blood freezes.  In the Spring he thaws =
out and is ready to go again.  Fascinating.

        Don


        Don MacNeill donmacneill@bellaliant.net
        On 08/02/2016 8:34 PM, Ken J MacAulay wrote:

          James, if you meant the woolly bear caterpillar of the =
Isabella Tiger Moth (pyrrharctia isabella), if it doesn=92t get =
squished, it will thaw out in the spring and pupate.  I saw one crawling =
on the pavement beside my car in last Saturday=92s sunshine and was =
quite surprised at how active it was.

          Ken MacAulay
          Port Mouton, NS






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<DIV>Hi Jim &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I expect many use a capital A at the start of =
arctic=20
(which means northern; derived from Greek word for Bear with reference =
to Ursa=20
Major) because the Arctic Circle does&nbsp;have capital letters at the =
start; it=20
being a defined geographic feature.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But coming back&nbsp;full circle it is fair to =
ask when=20
and why the big bear became associated with north. The Norse would =
certainly=20
have known about Polar Bears before they started trade routes, or trade=20
chains,&nbsp;down to the Middle East (not sure how early but early =
Bronze Age).=20
Could the tales of big bears in the north have been incorporated into =
sky charts=20
as Ursa Major ? </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps the documentary&nbsp;refers to recent =
studies of=20
the life cycle; 14 seasons then vs. 8 seasons now. It would also likely =
depend=20
upon microclimate.&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Yt, DW, Kentville</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">Jim=20
  Wolford</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 09, =
2016 3:28=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: [NatureNS] Wooly =
Worm=20
  Caterpillar</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>The isabella moth=92s woolly-bear caterpillar is black =
at both=20
  ends and brown in the middle. &nbsp;I think the myth says that the =
amount of=20
  black is related to the severity of the winter (or the opposite??), =
but I read=20
  somewhere that the relative amounts of black and brown are related to =
aging of=20
  the caterpillar.
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Regarding Don MacNeill=92s note, I think I have seen the same =
documentary=20
  showing the arctic woolly-bear caterpillar (all one colour, sort of =
reddish=20
  brown), which is another tiger moth like the isabella moth (family =
Arctiidae)=20
  =97 decades ago Dr. Olga Kukal at Acadia Biology Dept. studied the =
arctic=20
  species in the high arctic (why is arctic usually capitalized by =
everyone?),=20
  perhaps at Lake Hazen? &nbsp;And she determined that this particular=20
  caterpillar requires 14 =93summers=94 in order to grow enough to =
obtain the size=20
  and nutrients for forming a pupa/cocoon and then an adult moth, before =
laying=20
  some eggs and starting over. &nbsp;The documentary claimed that this =
life=20
  cycle was much shorter, about 8 years?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.&nbsp;<BR>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR =
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
'Helvetica'"><B>From:=20
    </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">Don MacNeill =
&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A>=
&gt;<BR></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
'Helvetica'"><B>Subject:=20
    </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>Re: =
[NatureNS] Wooly=20
    Worm Caterpillar</B><BR></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
'Helvetica'"><B>Date:=20
    </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">February 9, 2016 =
at=20
    9:28:49 AM AST<BR></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
'Helvetica'"><B>To:=20
    </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR></=
SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
'Helvetica'"><B>Reply-To:=20
    </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR></=
SPAN></DIV><BR>
    <DIV>
    <DIV text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><FONT face=3DCalibri>From =
what I=20
    remember, the orange portion was shorter, with a lot of black.&nbsp; =
This=20
    would mean a harsh winter.&nbsp; However, since I don't know in what =
year=20
    the video was taken, or the specific geographic area, the =
information isn't=20
    of much use.<BR><BR>Don<BR><BR></FONT>
    <DIV class=3Dmoz-signature>Don MacNeill <A =
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A>=
</DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 09/02/2016 9:00 AM, Nicholas Hill=20
    wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    =
cite=3Dmid:CAOK1_GY_kOMp_hs2qGkaut6yCVJ79itX8jMnauKLhm2TJeWHhg@mail.gmail=
.com=20
    type=3D"cite">
      <P dir=3Dltr>What did he predict this winter to be and what's the =
rationale=20
      on looking at the wooly worm as a sign?</P>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Feb 9, 2016 7:15 AM, "Don MacNeill" =
&lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR=20
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      <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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        <DIV text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><FONT face=3DCalibri>A =
program on TV=20
        last night showed great time-lapse footage of this.&nbsp; A =
Wooly Bear=20
        goes under a rock in the Arctic as winter approaches.&nbsp; Its =
heart=20
        stops and blood freezes.&nbsp; In the Spring he thaws out and is =
ready=20
        to go again.&nbsp; Fascinating.<BR><BR>Don<BR><BR></FONT>
        <DIV>Don MacNeill <A href=3D"mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net"=20
        target=3D_blank=20
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">donmacneill@bellaliant.net</A></DIV>
        <DIV>On 08/02/2016 8:34 PM, Ken J MacAulay wrote:<BR></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
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          <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
          <DIV>James, if you meant the woolly bear caterpillar of the =
Isabella=20
          Tiger Moth (pyrrharctia isabella), if it doesn=92t get =
squished, it will=20
          thaw out in the spring and pupate.&nbsp; I saw one crawling on =
the=20
          pavement beside my car in last Saturday=92s sunshine and was =
quite=20
          surprised at how active it was.</DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Ken MacAulay</DIV>
          <DIV>Port Mouton,=20
      =
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