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This is a human issue of attitude and it is important that = This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_079A_01D15851.1AB65FD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, Jan 26, 2016 The onus is on those who lead a crusade to be sure their map is = correct, to check that they are not holding it upside down and to learn = how to read a map. And if regulations are the product of this crusade = then those regulations should above all be well founded and advisable. The poor folks at NS Environment, and their warehouses of = regulations are a good example; mostly smoke, mirrors and a pathetic = grasp of the environment.=20 I may have the story wrong but I think they were involved in the = long-drawn out investigation of the association between Mink Fur Farms = and the mysterious blooms of N-fixing algae. That phrase alone--"blooms = of N-fixing algae" is enough to turn on that blinking lamp that says = phosphorus. The last I heard, the 19th century news that phosphate moves = poorly in mineral soils had still not been digested. Picking up Doggy-do is reasonable in some locations; say at a public = picnic table. But bagging it plastic for landfill disposal is wrong on = two counts; nutrients should be recycled not isolated and eventually = everything leaks. That modern and very expensive pride of waste = disposal, the lined and capped landfill is a ticking time bomb that will = yield grief to some future generation. And this sort of thing happens = largely because the votes of 11 ignorant people carry more weight than = the votes of 10 who are informed. Made in NS Biosolids apparently stink and consequently come with = much regulatory baggage. Do it right, using the Beltsville process = developed about 1975, and there is no stink or need for regulation. = Provided somebody does not start using it as a base for canned iced tea. We recently spent about $500 million in the Sydney Tar Ponds to = encapsulate what amounts to roofing tar; all so our glorious leaders = could demonstrate beyond doubt that they "took the problem seriously" = and to carefully follow the applicable regulations.=20 Yt, DW =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Sollows=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles I agree, Fritz. Ya gotta have both the education and the regulations, = wiht the education coming first, normally. That way, the rational, = sensible folks see the light and support initiatives they otherwise may = ignore or oppose. =20 I wonder how many good initiatives got/get shot down because too few = people got/get it... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Fritz McEvoy=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles Hi All, Education is certainly part of the solution but so are strong = regulations. The real solution is to make not properly controlling your = cat and/or antisocial ATV behavior socially unacceptable much as was = done for cleaning up after your dog, drinking and driving and/or smoking = in public or around children. It won't be an easy thing to do and it = could take decades to succeed (and there will always be those who think = rules only apply to others) but it can be done. All the best. Fritz McEvoy=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> = on behalf of David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> Sent: January 26, 2016 11:03 AM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles=20 Hi Nick & All, Jan 26, 2016 I agree Nick. Public education beats laws & law enforcement = hands down. I have faith that informed people will on average make = prudent choices which fit their immediate circumstances better than any = regulation can.=20 This may be a bias on my part but it seems that people are most = out of touch with reality when acting collectively [TNR, war against = chickens in town, Material Safety Data Sheets] and usually able to make = sensible choices when not exposed to misinformation overload or = hamstrung by regulations. And it takes so long to get a "turn left" regulation in place = that by the time it becomes effective a "turn right" regulation will = often be urgently needed. =20 Yt, DW, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholas Hill=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: star-nosed moles No, but it is silly to think we can legislate that every cat stays = indoors, even those of owners who tend their cats, feed birds at feeders = our of reach of cats, bring in cats when there are obvious birds around, = bring them in at night, leave long grass for meadow spp., leave brush = piles for refuge..=20 Before I get a cease and desist, make sure we are solving the most = egregious cases: ferals, unneutereds, barns full. It's all about doing = what we can and being models, not waving sticks. Our cats have taken = shrews mice and voles but no evidence of birds.