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class=3DMsoNormal><br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div>< <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org= /TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"><html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xht= ml"><head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Type= "/> =20 </head><body style=3D""> =20 <div> And no doubt Patrick, raptors on roosts, fox and other </div>=20 <div> native predators wouldn't kill birds! </div>=20 <div> Is that what you saying? </div>=20 <div> The cure would be worse than the decease! </div>=20 <div> Enjoy the winter </div>=20 <div> Paul </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-left-co= lor: blue; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position: rela= tive;" type=3D"cite"> On January 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM Patrick Kelly <Patrick.Kelly@Dal.Ca&#= 62; wrote: <br/> <br/>As Helene point out in her presentation to the Blomidon naturalist = Society, barn cats can easily be replaced by raptors (given a few places to= perch) , fox,, and other native predators=E2=80=A6=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> <br/>=20 <div>=20 <div> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:26 PM,=20 <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.c= a</a> wrote: </div>=20 <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"/>=20 <blockquote type=3D"cite">=20 <div>=20 <div> Nick - that's what barn cats are for - keeping populations </div>=20 <div> of rodents and flying rodents under control. Pigeons, starlings </div>=20 <div> sparrows - the English kind are all rodents. </div>=20 <div> The cats help keep a barn clean and do their best </div>=20 <div> work at night when its dark! </div>=20 <div> Imagion telling a farmer to lock up his cats at night - near as bad </div>=20 <div> as the fellow who wanted the farmer to delay cutting his hay for so= me reason! </div>=20 <div> Enjoy the winter </div>=20 <div> Paul </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 0px; border-le= ft-color: blue; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; position:= relative;" type=3D"cite"> On January 24, 2016 at 1:37 PM Nicholas Hill < fernhillns@gmail.com= 2; wrote:=20 <br/>=20 <br/>=20 <div dir=3D"ltr"> yes Darrell, they have an impact. My point is that this factor is = overblown and is not put in context of the many other factors that are trul= y reducing bird populations in the temperate region:=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> climate change </div>=20 <div> land use (e.g. short rotation forestry) </div>=20 <div> pesticides </div>=20 <div> oil? </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> Cats, cars, windturbines, reflective glass would be minor in comp= arison and I'd suggest we first focus on the major causes of decline an= d then look at tempering the minor threats which we are not going to fully = eliminate as they are part of our life style: </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> 1. Cat--keep cat in at night, fix feral cats and get them places </div>=20 <div> 2. Car--slow down..I killed a swallow last year when in what I th= ought was a hurry </div>=20 <div> 3. Windturbines--research placement of windmills out of flight pa= thways </div>=20 <div> 4, Glass--hard to know how to reduce bird impacts on existing win= dows, this national geographic article discusses some ways </div>=20 <div>  =20 <a href=3D"http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/11/141113= -bird-safe-glass-window-collision-animals-science/"> http://news.nationalge= ographic.com/news/2014/11/141113-bird-safe-glass-window-collision-animals-s= cience/</a> </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> We won't get anywhere legislating that cats be not allowed ou= t but increasing attention on barn populations and making people responsibl= e (or finding funding for) for fixing barn cats on their property, then sug= gesting that owners keep their cats in at dusk and night, will have impacts= . Currently, this negative focus on cats creates the impression that a biod= iversity crisis is the fault of cats not their humans who may also drive ca= rs profligately and eat crops grown using neonicotinoids. </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div> Nick </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20 <div>   </div>=20