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And one side lived on government grants Fritz.
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I had a friend who wrote funding applications for environmental
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group and she told me without mention of its contribution to Global Warming
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was necessary to obtain government grants! When you pay scientists
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they will say pretty much what you want. Forget the null hypotists dream!
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Maybe you think barn cats are a red herring and someone one
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said replace them with something. I guess as Dave says Common sense has left the building!
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Enjoy the winter
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Paul
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On January 24, 2016 at 4:59 PM Fritz McEvoy <fritzmcevoy@hotmail.com> wrote:
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<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>    The argument that "barn cats" are needed to keep the rodent population under control is a red herring. Almost no one is saying we should get rid of "barn cats". In fact the "barn cat" population has declined drastically over the past few decades as the number of family farm barns has declined. The real cat predation problem is in cities, not rural areas; although it is a problem there too.</p>
<p>     The bird predation by cats debate reminds me of the climate change debate. Both have virtually all scientific research on one side of the argument with the opposition relying on anecdotal evidence, snarky put-downs and/or a few scientific studies funded by parties with either a financial or ideological bias in their favor to make their case. All the best.</p>
<p>                                  Fritz McEvoy</p>
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<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><strong>From:</strong> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca><br/> <strong>Sent:</strong> January 24, 2016 4:26 PM<br/> <strong>To:</strong> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br/> <strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [NatureNS] Vancouver has new "bird strategy"</span>
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Nick - that's what barn cats are for - keeping populations
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of rodents and flying rodents under control. Pigeons, starlings
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sparrows - the English kind are all rodents.
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The cats help keep a barn clean and do their best
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work at night when its dark!
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Imagion telling a farmer to lock up his cats at night - near as bad
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as the fellow who wanted the farmer to delay cutting his hay for some reason!
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Enjoy the winter
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Paul
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On January 24, 2016 at 1:37 PM Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> wrote:
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yes Darrell, they have an impact. My point is that this factor is overblown and is not put in context of the many other factors that are truly reducing bird populations in the temperate region:
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climate change
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land use (e.g. short rotation forestry)
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pesticides
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oil?
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Cats, cars, windturbines, reflective glass would be minor in comparison and I'd suggest we first focus on the major causes of decline and then look at tempering the minor threats which we are not going to fully eliminate as they are part of our life style:
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1. Cat--keep cat in at night, fix feral cats and get them places
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2. Car--slow down..I killed a swallo