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------=_Part_6747055_1412505565.1452994506474 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken and all, I am writing to clarify eBird's stance on long counts.=C2=A0 They are not a= utomatically invalidated, nor is it a policy for reviewers to invalidate ch= ecklists based on distance or duration.=C2=A0 Checklists of shorter duratio= n and distance are more useful for modelling fine-scale habitat preferences= as in the eBird STEM models (Spatio-Temporal Exploratory Models), so the l= onger checklists are excluded for those particular analyses.=C2=A0 They are= still included in the public output in the Explore Data tab on the eBird w= ebsite and would be included on any data download. The only checklists that are automatically invalidated from public output a= re those that are entered at the provincial or state level (for instance us= ing simply "Nova Scotia" as the location).=C2=A0 Entering checklists at the= County level is allowed but discouraged, as the location is really too imp= recise, and often results in coastal birds being plotted in the interior of= the province and other similar problems.=C2=A0 Many of these are checklist= s are invalidated if found by a reviewer due to imprecise mapping of specie= s. Just to be sure, I checked all invalidated records of both Cedar and Bohemi= an Waxwings for Nova Scotia.=C2=A0 Almost all were due to province-level lo= cations, however I did find one of your checklists from a CBC in the Truro = area from 2010 that included Bohemian Waxwings and had been invalidated by = Blake with the reason "location imprecise".=C2=A0 I restored this checklist= to valid status. Hope this helps. Jake WalkereBird reviewer in NSWolfville =20 From: Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] waxwings and eBIrd records -longish =20 Hi Richard and allI rather suspect the eBird report you produced might be a= bit misleading. I think more waxwings than that were reported to eBIrd but= were disqualified from entering the general data base because they involve= lists reported as Christmas Bird Count routes. I have always just kept a r= unning count for each species as the day progressed on any routes I do on f= ull day counts and most times I put in a pretty extensive day often involvi= ng some night time observations. On CBCS the area tends to be smaller than = a spring migration count where my route covers a good hunk of western Picto= u Co from Pictou to the Colchester border. However, even this type of data = does not seem to be of much good or interest to the statisticians in contro= l of eBird. If this has changed recently or if I am wrong on this, maybe so= meone will let me know I personally find it annoying that this data is not counted or at least be = included in the quarterly eBird lists the seasonal editors receive to compi= le the NS Birds magazine. I find it great to be able to record and compare = data from one's route from year to year when I do the same sections on the = counts I do and for many years I do 5-7 counts. For some of the counts this= year I tried to keep separate lists for each community but I found it easi= er to lump everything together in getting my total for the evening tally an= d have not yet got around to filing individual lists for each stop in the d= ay. At least the birds on CBC will become part of the data on the Audubon d= atabase but the spring count data does not seem to be published anywhere an= y more that I can see so the route data I and others submitted =C2=A0has be= en lost in that it is not counted anywhere making one wonder why do the cou= nt at all. However it does get people out looking and sometimes different p= eople than who do a CBC.=C2=A0 Over the winter period, I have had 2 observations of Bohemian waxwings-1 on= the Economy CBC and 16 at access road to Big I. However I have 7 reports o= f 328 cedar waxwings including a flock of 125 in Plymouth below my home on = the Springville CBC. =C2=A0I checked =C2=A0every bird in this flock through= my scope for Bohemians and there were none to be found. I would think this= report would not be in your report Richard. =C2=A0In past years anyone reporting this number of winter cedars would be = asked if they checked the flock close enough as Bohemian is the most expect= ed waxwing after November but I think for some reason this year, many cedar= s have stayed behind. It might have something to do with the very bountiful= supply of berries such as Hawthorne and Mountain Ash as well as apples be = it flowering crab or Apple trees which seemed to have a lot of fruit this w= inter. =C2=A0 Enjoy winter nature=C2=A0 Ken=C2=A0 Ken McKennaPlymouth Pictou co.=C2=A0 Sent from my iPad On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com> wrote: Looking at Ebird data for Dec. 2015 - Feb. 2016, there are so far just 3 re= ports of Bohemian waxwing - 15 Big Island (Pictou Co) 8 Jan., 2 East Kemptv= ille., 9 Jan, 250 Big Island same day. For Cedar waxwing there are 20 repor= ts, with some of up to 75 birds, from a variety of areas - mostly places wi= th lots of birders. Richard On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca> wrote: Be careful of how much you put down on your bet Jim. There seem to be more = Cedars than Bohemians this winter although both are being seen.=C2=A0Cheers= Ken Sent from my iPad On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> Subject: waxwings, east Wolfville Date: January 16, 2016 at 2:51:02 PM AST To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca> Cc: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> JAN. 16, 2016 - Pat called me to the window at 1 p.m., to show me a large f= lock of 75+ waxwings, which sat in our trees but just too far away for diag= nosis for 15 minutes or so, then flew away.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99ll bet they wer= e Bohemians, but someone else will have to determine that.=C2=A0 Also prese= nt were 30+ goldfinches, 15+ mourning doves, 4 rock pigeons, and 10 starlin= gs.=C2=A0 This was in the Woodman apartment buildings at east-end Wolfville= . Cheers from Jim in Wolfville. --=20 ################# Dr.R.B.Stern,=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 P.O. Box 300, Port Williams, N.S., Canada, B0P 1T0 Richard Stern,=20 Port Williams, NS, Canada sternrichard@gmail.com ################### ------=_Part_6747055_1412505565.1452994506474 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helve= tica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_= 0_1_1452992859966_2692"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1452992859966_3139">Hi Ken= and all,</span></div><div id=3D"y