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>>> From: Mary Macaulay < This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_302E_01D14AC6.EE204F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mary & All, Jan 9, 2016 Poor management to some degree perhaps but today's problems, and the = aftermath, are the consequences of greed, waste and excessively large = environmental footprints. I adopted a frugal lifestyle early in life, for the above reason, = and have records of power, water, oil and motor vehicle milage going = back to1967 or thereabouts. Although it would take time to tabulate them I pledge $500 to Feed = NS if anyone who has lived in a house during this period has lower = verifiable values. Contenders must also pledge $500 to Feed NS. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mary Macaulay=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry David Step back a minute and remember it is our very interference and = "managing" that is upsetting the delicate balance of Nature. Thoreau would remind you "In Wildness is the preservation of the = World". With kindest regards Mary (Macaulay), P.Eng. Queen Bee, Insect Recovery Project Owner, Remember Adventures Pedal Buggy & snowshoe rentals, picnics, great bird friendly coffee, = breakfast & pasta, pollinator meadow, games & more!!=20 (Open Wed to Sunday: 8:30 am) 365 Main Street & Station Road Trans-Canada Trail Tatamagouche RememberAdventures.ca & InsectRecovery.org 1-902-657-0054 Twitter @RememberTata & @InsectRecovery On Jan 7, 2016, at 8:44 PM, David & Alison Webster = <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: Hi Mary, Jim & All, Jan 7, 2016 By biomass I meant cutting trees (but clear cutting only in very = exceptional circumstances), mowing Miscanthus,.... and ultimately = burning for power. It is a grave mistake to imagine that carbon accumulation in a = forest continues for all time. David Suzuki preached this for a while = but retracted about 20 years ago. After few decades or many, depending = upon initial state, a point is reached whereby release of carbon dioxide = by forest litter and soil equals the carbon fixed in any one year. This = steady state neither gains nor loses CO2. Consult a copy of The Soil = Resource Hans Jenny Ecological Studies 37 1980, 377 pp; fluff free so = about 400 hrs would be a good start. A steady state forest does store carbon until a dry period hits, = as it has out west for several years, and one has huge forest fires. And = dry or not there are some forest fires every year. And on the heels of a = forest fire, unless there is very rapid regeneration, there will be = large losses of CO2 from soil, as in clear cuts. As an aside, I have been selectively cutting trees for firewood, = off and on, for 72 years and I am confident that most cuts quickly led = to greater growth rates of the remaining trees and greater rates of = carbon capture. I don't want to put words in Jamie's mouth or actions in = his hands but, unless I have wires crossed, he also cuts trees = selectively for firewood and I suspect that given the same setting we = would very often make similar choices.=20 Also as an aside, one learns by making mistakes and I have = learned much that way. For example in 1971 I bought a woodlot south of = Wolfville with the view that the best way to protect woodland was to buy = and not cut it. For 10 years I spent many weekends thinning perhaps 5% = of the area and keeping the lines clear and in 1981 got a nearby lot and = neglected the first. At the time of the cutting craze (high prices) I = received many phone calls from those wanting to buy stumpage and refused = all. I was called all kinds of names, most having something to do with = fool and was warned that many would die if I did not have the larger = trees removed. It turns out they were correct. Many did die or perhaps = even worse survive and crowd nearby trees. In the wind of Dec 2010 many = more went over and in much of those woods one would be unwise to walk = without a chainsaw; land in a tangle of 10' Fir thickets and cross piled = windfalls is just plain dangerous to walk across without a saw to cut a = path if need be. With the objective of making matters easier for my = executors I put it up for sale and the only serious offer was from a = logger, about my age, who had cut some there when he was young. He has = two (?) sons and I am sure they will do a better job of managing it than = I did. In the North Alton woodlot about 2003 my neighbor had a = harvester on his lot and offered to selectively cut about 20 acres of = mine which he claimed would soon die if not thinned; the offer was (?) = $40,000 guaranteed and half of any remaining profit. I agreed to this, = slept on it and backed out. Once again he was correct; probably 80% of = these trees did die and there are large patches bare of live trees.=20 The discussion about woodland, from my perspective, is whether = and how the desirable features of selective cutting for firewood can be = effected by machinery for biomass and therefore be cost-effective, = improve the forest and decrease net CO2 emissions. We have strayed into = several side issues but this is a necessary step so all or most can = agree on what is known or can be known. For nearly a year now I have intended to make some comments = about possible futures for NS forests and this current discussion may = lead into that subject eventually. It is a topic which I think needs to = be carefully reconsidered in all respects.=20 My time and energy is largely taken up in 24/7 home care so time = is usually limited to fragments of time between chores. But I do = generally have ~3 hrs free when Alison has a nap between 12:30 and 3:30. = So Jim (and Mary if business takes you this way) I would be delighted to = show you a Pine stand which has been cut much and in need again of = thinning (the 2010 wind thinned some and my Nephews thankfully extracted = the logs) and some of the consequences of not thinning soon enough as = viewed in North Alton. The average age of NS forests, so I understand, is about 40 = y