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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_2FF3_01D14A62.D8F2DB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Doug & All, Jan 8, 2016 I am partial to evidence based conclusions. I have yet to see any = experimental results based on NS material. All I have received are = fragments of the Gospel according to Nick & David P. If the evidence is = so great and obvious why is it being kept a secret ? The example which I quoted recently, and not explained, still has me = wondering if the fuss about drastic Ca depletion is more than a fad in = some cases and perhaps all cases. This was from Table 2 in Lawerence and = Huntington; given without background information.=20 A site classified as highly sensitive to calcium depletion (Coweeta) = has 1370 kg/ha exchangeable Ca, total Ca of 11500 kg/ha total Ca and Net = Calcium depletion of 6.6 kg/ha/year. So exchangeable Ca, assuming no = recycling from Mixed Hardwood litter and foliage leaching which is of = course false [Most Ca in such litter would be released within a year], = would be sufficient for only 207 years. Note to self: urgent; order a = truckload of lime to be delivered in 100 years.=20 And Total Ca, in some undisclosed fraction of the rooting zone, of = which the major portion would be bound in minerals [and such weathering = would be speeded by the acidity of acid ppt.] would be sufficient once = released to last only 1700 years.=20 I am partial to free and open evidence-based discussion. This latest = move; an official Nature NS policy sounds like a move to muzzle = discussion and replace it by worship of some ad-hoc form of Religion. = If that in fact proves to be the case then Naturens will wither to a = bird watch forum or some dust on a cobweb.=20 In one of my recent e-mails I indicated the merits of research into = this and many other related questions. That bounced somewhat less than a = dead cat. The will be many Science Graduates in the near future with no = prospect of a job. And in my view there are a multitude of questions to = be investigated. Why are the self-appointed High Priests of Nature NS so = fearful of truth being laid bare ? =20 Nick, as came to light recently, I knew more about the history of = charcoal forests in your UK area than you did. Is it perhaps possible = that I know almost as much as you do about barrens in my backyard ? You = speak of "overharvest transforming landscape into lower equilibrium = states (e.g. shrub barrens here and in NL)",=20 Do you have documentary evidence of when these barrens carried a = crop of trees and when they were cut ? Where exactly are these barrens ? = Have you examined for traces of charcoal well below the litter layer by = flotation ? What textures and soil depths are represented ? Good soil or = good highway fill too shallow to bother mining ? For example, the large barren west of the Costley homestead on Route = 12 (just this side of the Salmontail River) was referred to by one of = the Costleys (Milton or Truman) as "the fire barrens". It goes back to = the mid-1800s if not earlier. And it seems likely that these barrens had = help getting and remaining in that state. All Lowbush Blueberries were = harvested wild in those days and those living in Nova Scarcity needed to = use all possible edibles. When my father was young [late 1800s, early 1900s] he and my = grandfather (as I learned by chance from some Costley70+ years later) = used to drive out (horse and buggy; by star, moon or slack reins both = ways) every year to pick blueberries and return to Cambridge, Kings Co = with a year's supply. His father David Costley was famous as a bear = hunter and elderly when he was decorated by Queen Victoria (early 1900s = ?) for the many Bear hides he had provided. One can be reasonably sure = that Blueberries were the bear draw. As recently as 1960 there was an area near Aldershot which used to = catch fire at a convenient time so there would be a renewal of the = plants and better crops for a few years. Vaccinium a. is not shade = tolerant so decent stands would tend to develop where light coarse soil = texture could support only scattered Pines, runty Betula populifolia and = the like.=20 And in addition to the fires set in relatively recent times by = intent, fires started by lightening or careless use of fire would be = expected to add to the roster over time. And before European settlers = arrived there were Indians for 8,000 to 10,000 (?) years and it would be = strange indeed it they over time did not have fire barrens until the = berry plants played out. To survive here, using stone age culture, I = expect that on average they were a good deal more intelligent than the = average modern University Prof. so they surely would have used fire and = made good use of these berries. I am concerned that ganging up on the government to make sudden = changes will snuff out use of Biomass period; woodland or otherwise. = Politicians never need bad press; least of all now.=20 I have studiously avoided ever becoming a member of any organization = which might attempt to control thoughts. Personal freedom of thought is = of great value and members of the the Little Pioneers or whatever are = expected to, in North Korea style, acquire Little Pioneers ways of = thought.=20 =20 =20 Yours truly, David H. Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Doug Linzey" <doug.linzey@gmail.com> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry > Succinctly put, Nick. >=20 > I agree that Nature Nova Scotia should have a policy statement on=20 > biomass burning in the province. At this point the NNS board is well=20 > aware of the situation and will likely discuss the topic at its = meeting=20 > in Halifax this weekend. >=20 > In the meantime, if this subject is of concern to you, let your local=20 > naturalist clubs know. They are the backbone of Natur