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hoose not to kno --001a1143cac2cd6e940528d4c5f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with Nick! Caitlin On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> wrote= : > "when we cut the forest and ploughed our prairies, we never knew what we > were doing because we never knew what we were undoing" (Wes Jackson citin= g > a Wendell Berry letter) > > But we do know what we are undoing and if we don't given the thesis David > Patriquin has reported has not been acted on, a minor paper I've done, a > bunch of work Bill Freedman did, numerous examples..some in our own > province..of overharvest transforming landscape into lower equilibrium > states (e.g. shrub barrens here and in NL), the much heralded (globe and > mail.."osteoporosis of forest soils") impact of acidification on calcium > all over eastern Canada (John Smol's lab at Queens), then we choose not t= o > know. > > We are dealing with a serious threat to Nova Scotia forests and we can > choose not to think about it and get in the car and go to a token intact > area but as naturalists, we need to take a united position, stop the doub= t > on the big stuff, and provide leadership. We have no grants to protect, w= e > need to firmly state that we are for a responsible use of forests that > takes a multigenerational view of impact. Until there is a process in pla= ce > that ensures that a landscape is not operating in the red in terms of soi= l > nutrient and structure and in terms of habitat for key species, we need t= o > put a moratorium on large-scale biomass burning to generate electricity i= n > Nova Scotia. > > Nick > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:21 AM, David & Alison Webster < > dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: > >> Hi Nick & All, Jan 8, 2016 >> With respect to your first paragraph you know perfectly well that >> good hardwood was in fact harvested for this purpose; foolish and >> destructive as it surely was. For expansion of this see my e-mail of Mar= 1, >> 2015. At least now, so I understand, some quality logs are being set asi= de >> but the overall operation, as I understand it, is far removed from >> acceptable. >> >> That mess was generated as a consequence of the usual; good >> intensions gone wrong. "acting for our financial well-being" was not par= t >> of the planning equation. But without doubt the harvesters were acting >> for their financial well-being. >> >> The necessary ingredients for good resource management are open >> minds, unbiased information, foresight, timely fine tuning and freedom f= rom >> emotional obstruction fueled by misinformation. >> >> Sifting through the huge "information" dunghill and extracting those >> sparse brown pearls of wisdom is a valid activity on Naturens and is one >> major reason why I am here. It is a huge learning opportunity and a foru= m >> in which those brown pearls can perhaps become less brown. >> >> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> >> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:50 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry >> >> Oh Jim, no one would be so stupid as to put good forest into a burner >> electroconvetrer losing 70% of its energy in conversion and that calciu= m >> and habitat from the forest floor. >> >> Now, there are ways to grow biomass but that too needs habitat planning. >> >> It sounds as if the Nova Scotia naturalists ..nature NS ..should take a >> stand on how and when to use biomass before what is important to us is >> further threatened by those who say they are acting for our financial >> well-being. While this may be so, indiscriminate conversion of foresy >> biomass would be doing our kids a disservice. >> >> Nick >> On Jan 7, 2016 5:14 PM, "Jim Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote: >> >>> I fear Mary is reading into =E2=80=9Cbiomass=E2=80=9D its harvesting an= d burning, which >>> I=E2=80=99m sure was not intended by David W. And yes to Mary=E2=80=99= s second sentence. >>> from Jim in Wolfville. >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com> >>> *Subject: **Re: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry* >>> *Date: *January 7, 2016 at 3:50:03 PM AST >>> *To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>> *Reply-To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>> >>> You lost me at: >>> "Biomass, from forest or otherwise, is one potential way to reduce >>> carbon footprint so I think every effort should be made to foster and >>> expand this as quickly as possible." >>> >>> I'm hoping you meant storing Carbon in biomass by leaving forests intac= t >>> rather than burning them...? >>> >>> But I fear not. >>> >>> With kindest regards >>> >>> Mary (Macaulay), P.Eng. >>> Queen Bee, Insect Recovery Project >>> Owner, Remember Adventures >>> Pedal Buggy & snowshoe rentals, picnics, great bird friendly coffee, >>> breakfast & pasta, pollinator meadow, games & more!! >>> (Open Wed to Sunday: 8:30 am) >>> 365 Main Street & Station Road >>> Trans-Canada Trail >>> Tatamagouche >>> RememberAdventures.ca & InsectRecovery.org >>> 1-902-657-0054 >>> Twitter @RememberTata & @InsectRecovery >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 2:54 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Biomass, from forest or otherwise, is one potential way to reduce carbo= n >>> footprint so I think every effort should be made to foster and expand t= his >>> as quickly as possible. >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11336 - Release Date: 01/06/= 16 >> >> > --001a1143cac2cd6e940528d4c5f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with Nick!=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Caitlin=C2=A0<= /div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri= , Jan 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Nicholas Hill <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto