Fwd: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry

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I agree with Nick!

Caitlin

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> "when we cut the forest and ploughed our prairies, we never knew what we
> were doing because we never knew what we were undoing" (Wes Jackson citin=
g
> a Wendell Berry letter)
>
> But we do know what we are undoing and if we don't given the thesis David
> Patriquin has reported has not been acted on, a minor paper I've done, a
> bunch of work Bill Freedman did, numerous examples..some in our own
> province..of overharvest transforming landscape into lower equilibrium
> states (e.g. shrub barrens here and in NL), the much heralded (globe and
> mail.."osteoporosis of forest soils") impact of acidification on calcium
> all over eastern Canada (John Smol's lab at Queens), then we choose not t=
o
> know.
>
> We are dealing with a serious threat to Nova Scotia forests and we can
> choose not to think about it and get in the car and go to a token intact
> area but as naturalists, we need to take a united position, stop the doub=
t
> on the big stuff, and provide leadership. We have no grants to protect, w=
e
> need to firmly state that we are for a responsible use of forests that
> takes a multigenerational view of impact. Until there is a process in pla=
ce
> that ensures that a landscape is not operating in the red in terms of soi=
l
> nutrient and structure and in terms of habitat for key species, we need t=
o
> put a moratorium on large-scale biomass burning to generate electricity i=
n
> Nova Scotia.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:21 AM, David & Alison Webster <
> dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick & All,                            Jan 8, 2016
>>     With respect to your first paragraph you know perfectly well that
>> good hardwood was in fact harvested for this purpose; foolish and
>> destructive as it surely was. For expansion of this see my e-mail of Mar=
 1,
>> 2015. At least now, so I understand, some quality logs are being set asi=
de
>> but the overall operation, as I understand it, is far removed from
>> acceptable.
>>
>>     That mess was generated as a consequence of the usual; good
>> intensions gone wrong. "acting for our financial well-being" was not par=
t
>> of the planning equation. But without doubt the harvesters were acting
>> for their financial well-being.
>>
>>     The necessary ingredients for good resource management are open
>> minds, unbiased information, foresight, timely fine tuning and freedom f=
rom
>> emotional obstruction fueled by misinformation.
>>
>>     Sifting through the huge "information" dunghill and extracting those
>> sparse brown pearls of wisdom is a valid activity on Naturens and is one
>> major reason why I am here. It is a huge learning opportunity and a foru=
m
>> in which those brown pearls can perhaps become less brown.
>>
>> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com>
>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 7:50 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Fwd: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry
>>
>> Oh Jim,  no one would be so stupid as to put good forest into a burner
>> electroconvetrer losing 70% of its  energy in conversion and that calciu=
m
>> and habitat from the forest floor.
>>
>> Now, there are ways to grow biomass but that too needs habitat planning.
>>
>> It sounds as if the Nova Scotia naturalists ..nature NS ..should take a
>> stand on how and when to use biomass before what is important to us is
>> further threatened by those who say they are acting for our financial
>> well-being. While this may be so, indiscriminate conversion of foresy
>> biomass would be doing our kids a disservice.
>>
>> Nick
>> On Jan 7, 2016 5:14 PM, "Jim Wolford" <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I fear Mary is reading into =E2=80=9Cbiomass=E2=80=9D its harvesting an=
d burning, which
>>> I=E2=80=99m sure was not intended by David W.  And yes to Mary=E2=80=99=
s second sentence.
>>>  from Jim in Wolfville.
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> *From: *Mary Macaulay <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>
>>> *Subject: **Re: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry*
>>> *Date: *January 7, 2016 at 3:50:03 PM AST
>>> *To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>> *Reply-To: *naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>
>>> You lost me at:
>>> "Biomass, from forest or otherwise, is one potential way to reduce
>>> carbon footprint so I think every effort should be made to foster and
>>> expand this as quickly as possible."
>>>
>>> I'm hoping you meant storing Carbon in biomass by leaving forests intac=
t
>>> rather than burning them...?
>>>
>>> But I fear not.
>>>
>>> With kindest regards
>>>
>>> Mary (Macaulay), P.Eng.
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>>>
>>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 2:54 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Biomass, from forest or otherwise, is one potential way to reduce carbo=
n
>>> footprint so I think every effort should be made to foster and expand t=
his
>>> as quickly as possible.
>>>
>>>
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