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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Yes Steve and all -  </span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">The way to make </span>
<span style="font-size: 12pt;">the price of anything to go up is to short the supply!<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">As we learned long ago its more profitable to produce 95% of<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">market requirements than 105%!<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">In a "Did you know" article it said it took 220 tons of coal to<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">produce one wind power tower! Susprised me!<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Have a very Merry Christmas and a good 2016!<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Enjoy the goose!<br/></span>
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<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Paul<br/></span>
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<br/>> On December 24, 2015 at 11:58 AM Stephen Shaw <srshaw@Dal.Ca> wrote:
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<br/>> Ed Darby? Abraham Darby I around 1709 modified the blast furnace that had already been evolving for over a millenium, to consume coke instead of charcoal as the source of carbon that formed the carbon monoxide used to reduce raw iron oxide to pig iron, the starting point for other iron products. Charcoal gave a purer iron product, but making coke from coal proved much cheaper than making charcoal from harvested trees, by then a scarce commodity. For both charcoal and coke, a main byproduct was/is CO2 gas from the finally oxidised carbon, released into the atmosphere. The cheaper Darby coke method, later improved, caught on rapidly: a gnomic irony of this is that while saving some of the CO2-consuming much diminished forests from approaching extinction, it led rapidly to much greater iron production via burning fossil carbon that underpinned the Industrial Revolution in Britain, which in turn led to ever increasing CO2 emissions, eventually worldwide.
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<br/>> On a lesser point not covered by reporter Aaron Beswick's article in the C-H that Dave referred to, if you had tried to get a few cords of 16" cut firewood for your wood stove in early 2015, as we did, you would have found that initially, none of the local suppliers around Halifax could get any logs, because they believed that such wood that had been harvested was nearly all going directly to Point Tupper biomass monster, because that had been built too large for the available supply of so-called 'waste' wood and bark. Central planning at its very best. Our supplier eventually got some logs from New Brunswick, but the price went up considerably.
<br/>> Steve
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<br/>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on behalf of David & Alison Webster [dwebster@glinx.com]
<br/>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:12 PM
<br/>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
<br/>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry
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<br/>> Hi Nick & All, Dec 23, 2015
<br/>> I have only few minutes so will deal with the "gnomic" question first and return later to the rest.
<br/>> It was a new word to me so I had to consult a dictionary which referred me to sententious= Aphoristic, pithy, given to the use of maxims; (of persons) = fond of pompous moralizing; maxim= A general truth drawn from science or experience.
<br/>> I think we should both plead guilty to the "gnomic" charge and be flattered. As for the "pompous moralizing"; I am frequently inclined to quote the King James Bible but then remember: "Be not righteous over much, neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself ?"; Ecclesiastes 7:16; and decide not to.
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<br/>> Merry Christmas All & A Happy New Year
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<br/>> ----- Original Message -----
<br/>> From: Nicholas Hill<mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com>
<br/>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
<br/>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:32 PM
<br/>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Red Herring & Forestry
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<br/>> A friend recently accused me of being "gnomic", and ill-educated lout as i am, i took issue at being called a gnome, but moving into this here case at hand, I think the gnomes have it: "And warning that use of biomass is not green is perhaps already an effective way to indirectly kill trees." Not exactly gnomic but not entirely designed for clarity and explicitness. Then we have: "And if not now, then without doubt in the future." This non sentence leaves us without a doubt in the future waiting with and like Godot for some Christmas clarety.
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<br/>> Seriously, I see Dave's point and Jamie's. England found a way through Edward Darby to stop using beech trees for coking to make steel; Darby figured out how to substitute coal for wood and thank god because England had run out of most decent sized trees and was charcoaling most of its forests. David is right that the first quotation is an overstatement but Jamie's point was most welcome in today's Herald. We not only