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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It --_000_1C500D285711448788A5B6BA03E51CD9dalca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To quantify Dave=92s comment a bit more from the same useful source that he= has dug up (cited again below): 450,000 km of hedgerows were left by the = 1990s, and 121,000 km had been lost, so the total aboriginal length in, say= , the Middle Ages would have been ~571,000 km. A loss of 121,000 km by the= 1990s therefore represents a ~21.2 percent loss of the total original hedg= erow in UK. Of the current remainder, 190,000 km are estimated to be speci= es rich and =91ancient=92. Unusefully, the article doesn=92t say whether the losses have been concentr= ated more on the species rich hedgerows. If this were so, the losses of th= is superior habitat would have been greater than 21%. The poor condition o= f even the remaining hedgerow is attributed to excessive use of fertilizer = and pesticides in intensive farming, and decline in traditional management = practices. This article concerns hedgerows, and doesn=92t touch on the ma= ssive deforestation in much of the UK, to fuel such early practices as char= coal production for iron smelting. On a comparative technical point, we've also been back several times in the= last few years, using rental cars in England, Scotland and Wales. At leas= t as the main driver, I couldn=92t hazard a guess at the state of the hedge= rows because even though UK major road surfaces are generally much better m= aintained than here, traffic density and speed there in England at least is= frightening these days, such that loss of attention for even a second or t= wo to view the scenery would likely lead to annihilation. Parking a car on= the side of the road is often now difficult to almost impossible, even in = small villages. Next time I think we had better take a bus tour. Steve (Hfx) On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:32 AM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com<ma= ilto:dwebster@glinx.com>> wrote: Thanks Peter, Perceived loss may depend upon the time frame involved and the specific= area. According to http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife/habitats/hedgero= ws some 121,000 km of hedgerows had been lost in the UK by the 1990. This may be small or large relative to the total remaining; not sure. I would expect the impact of habitat shrinkage on a population to frequ= ently be delayed until some other factor, e.g. adverse weather, caused a dr= amatic decline in numbers. In such circumstances, sparse habitat, could rea= dily preclude recovery. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: Hubcove@aol.com<mailto:Hubcove@aol.com> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] UK Butterflies decline In our frequent visits to the UK we haven't noticed much decline in hedgero= ws, probably because there are quite strict regulation governing their remo= val Peter Stow Hubbards In a message dated 2015-12-16 8:32:43 P.M. Atlantic Standard Time, dwebster= @glinx.com<mailto:dwebster@glinx.com> writes: Hi Steve & All, Dec 16, 2015 It seems odd that there was no mention of the obvious; loss of hedgerow= s by consolidation of fields and crop specialization which would surely imp= ly for some species not only loss of habitat but habitat fragmentation. Yt, DW, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Shaw<mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 6:38 PM Subject: [NatureNS] UK Butterflies decline Continuing an earlier thread, this short Guardian article summarizes a robu= st increase in a few, but drastic decline in many species, in UK. Causes u= nknown but pesticides and climate change among suspects fingered. Steve (Hfx) Begin forwarded message: Subject: UK Butterflies decline Date: December 15, 2015 at 11:57:09 AM AST http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/dec/15/decline-in-over-three-qu= arters-uk-butterfly-species-final-warning-says-chris-packham?utm_source=3De= sp&utm_medium=3DEmail&utm_campaign=3DGU+Today+main+Charity+appeal+151215&ut= m_term=3D143781&subid=3D14439812&CMP=3DEMCNEWEML6619I No virus found in this message. 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A loss of 121,000 km by the 1990s therefore represents = a ~21.2 percent loss of the total original hedgerow in UK. Of the cur= rent remainder, 190,000 km are estimated to be species rich and =91ancient= =92. <div> </div> <div>Unusefully, the article doesn=92t say whether the losses have been con= centrated more on the species rich hedgerows. If this were so, the lo= sses of this superior habitat would have been greater than 21%. The p= oor condition of even the remaining hedgerow is attributed to excessive use of fertilizer and pesticides in intensive f= arming, and decline in traditional management practices. This articl= e concerns hedgerows, and doesn=92t touch on the massive deforestation in m= uch of the UK, to fuel such early practices as charcoal production for iron smelting. </div> <div><br> </div> <div>On a comparative technical point, we've also been back several times i= n the last few years, using rental cars in England, Scotland and Wales. &nb= sp;At least as the main driver, I couldn=92t hazard a guess at the state of= t