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Hi Paul, Andrew & All, Oct 10, 2015 That is an interesting question Paul. In common with most natural phenomena there are no doubt several forces at work and I will describe what I suspect to be the major possible mechanism from first principles. I don't buy the explanation you suggested Andrew. Sun on high ground does not draw heat upward causing cold air to be drawn down. Sun on high ground will warm the local air causing it to expand, decrease the density of this air mass and it will rise by the same forces that cause a hot air balloon to rise. This rise of a warmer air mass above high ground will lead to a compensating upward flow of cooler air from lower levels. It will help, I think, to consider some of the effective ways of warding off a marginal frost because this sheds some insight on mechanisms. (A) Nothing is gained by working all night when frost is unlikely so the first step is deciding when to prepare for action. In the days before weather forecasts frost omens were the combination of calm air and absence of cloud cover when evening temperatures were marginal. Thus, in the absence of lateral air movement, local cooling can be rapid if out radiation is not compensated by in radiation (from clouds). (B) And one time-tested strategy for frost avoidance is putting frost sensitive crops on a slope. Even in otherwise calm air the very slow downward flow of air under cooling conditions offers some protection. That this works also with tree fruits where the sensitive tissue is well above ground level suggests that transpiration from plant organs (leaves or flowers) is also a cause of cooling; thus airflow displaces this sheath of cooled air adjacent to the transpiring plant organs [Stomata will be open at night and the latent heat of vaporization is about 590 calories per gram of water at 10o C; enough heat to melt 7 grams of ice at 0o C.] This effect of air flow also applies to D. (C) One ancient way to avoid frost is smudge pots; fires in portable containers smothered with anything which will generate smoke and moved as necessary so smoke will drift over the crop. The heat generated by these fires is insignificant so protection, if any, is provided by back radiation of heat from the smoke which will be able to absorb some out radiation. A modern variant of this uses aerosols generated by spraying liquid onto a vibrating surface(I think). (D) Because frost develops when objects with the potential to cool rapidly are not warmed somewhat by a compensating inflow of warmer air or incoming radiation, one very effective way to avoid frost is the generation of artificial wind; either by large fans on tall towers or by flying low over the crop with a small plane throughout the critical dawn hours. E) Probably the most efficient and convenient means of frost protection is sprinkler irrigation when frost seems imminent. This will lead to significant ice formation on leaves and blossoms but the crop is protected because temperature can not drop below 0o C. F) For small plants in gardens (e.g. newly planted tomato plants) a gallon glass jug with the bottom cut off (cotton twine wet with gasoline then lit and jug placed in a tray of water just after flame dies) is effective if placed over the plant due to a greenhouse effect; heat from the soil and plant is trapped within the jug, except for a slow loss due to conduction, and this demonstrates that out radiation is a significant cause of cooling. G) Again for small gardens, e.g. Tomato plants tied to poles or sprawling, an old sheet draped over them and left overnight will help to keep in soil/plant heat which would otherwise be lost to radiation. Getting back to the original question (why is frost hazard maximal near dawn ?) probably one major factor is a large reduction in back radiation; an object cools when out radiation exceeds in radiation. The haze which develops when air becomes saturated with water vapor and condenses onto dust particles probably provides significant in radiation (my guess). i.e. haze, water droplets so small they are evident only in a beam of light, can be expected to intercept radiation from plants or soil and radiate a portion of this back towards the ground and in effect act as low-lying clouds. How high this haze blanket extends I don't know but presumaby as high as the zone of saturation and this haze blanket will quickly thin from the top down as these tiny accumulations of water on dust particles are warmed by the first rays of the sun. So this haze blanket may be thought of as an earth-fitting wedge shaped layer which retreats westward as the sun rises, the upper surface being a tangent to the horizon and aimed at the sun. NOTE: these dust particles, really spores, pollen grains, salt crystals, smoke particles, very fine sand, silt or clay, etc. will also lead to some back radiation but not as effectively as water droplets due to the heat capacity of water and the capacity of haze sized droplets. In the absence of particles to serve as a nucleus water can not readily condense from saturated air due to a relatively high heat of fusion (79.7 cal/gram at 15o C). If two water molecules got together to start a water droplet then the heat released would be roughly equivalent to the heat required to raise their temperature by ~80o C; a difficult way to stay cool. Ionizing radiation also aids condensation (Wilson chamber) but this is a side issue. It is possible perhaps that the high concentrations of CO2, especially within plant intercellular spaces and on the underside of leaves, helps to hold tissue heat in (micro-greenhouse effect) and at the first rays of light this buildup of CO2 will start to decrease as photosynthesis kicks in. The outer surfaces of leaves and fruits carry an electrostatic charge because in the application of pesticides as tiny droplets at low volume the particles are given an opposite charge so they will be attracted to leaf and fruit surfaces (to minimize drift). Drawing on memory, these spray particles were given a negative charge which implies a positive charge on plant surfaces. I don't know how this charge develops but wonder if it is dependent on or reversed by photosynthesis. And if a wind of charges from the sharp tips of plant hairs could cause cooling. Electrostatics is full of surprises. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hebda, Andrew J" <Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Nature