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Index of Subjects --047d7bdca6863a71320520931a54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All valid points, folks. Yes, the collagen does degrade with heat, making the bone more brittle. And I agree David, who would know if a wild animal dies from eating splintered bone. None-the-less, splintered bone is found in the scats, and as some pet owners have related, some dogs seem to have no trouble with bird bone. Randy _________________________________ RF Lauff Way in the boonies of Antigonish County, NS. On 25 September 2015 at 10:51, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: > Hi Randy & All, > When a wild animal chews bird bones, as they surely do sometimes, and > this leads to perforation in the alimentary canal who would ever know ? > > But when a family pet chews bird bones, and this leads to problems, > the cause needs to be established only once for this unlikely consequence > to become widely known. Perforation or blockage is unlikely but it can > happen. > > I know offhand of one instance where a man got a perforated esophagus > from eating chicken which contained a splintered bone, presumably made > during processing. > > yt, Dave Webster, Kentville > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> > *To:* NatureNS <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > *Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2015 9:51 AM > *Subject:* [NatureNS] digestive tracts of mammals > > Well, there's a subject line you don't see every day. > > I have a borrowed trail cam out and got a nice pic of a coyote; I bait > with supper left overs like chicken parts. One person I shared it with was > aghast that I would do this..."chicken bones will splinter in their > intestines". > > I can't see this happening...they'll splinter when they're chewed, *maybe > (?) *a bit more due to the churning of the stomach. The intestine just > isn't strong enough to cause splintering. And I have heard not to feed your > dog chicken bones because of the threat of splinters. Yet wild animals eat > birds all the time, and I have come across scads of scats in my decades in > the woods with splintered bone. > > Can anyone resolve this conundrum? Why can wild mammals tolerate the bones > while domestics (apparently) can not? > > Thanks, > Randy > _________________________________ > RF Lauff > Way in the boonies of > Antigonish County, NS. > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10696 - Release Date: 09/25/15 > > --047d7bdca6863a71320520931a54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">All valid points, folks.<div><br></div><div>Yes, the colla= gen does degrade with heat, making the bone more brittle. And I agree David= , who would know if a wild animal dies from eating splintered bone. None-th= e-less, splintered bone is found in the scats, and as some pet owners have = related, some dogs seem to have no trouble with bird bone.</div><div><br></= div><div>Randy</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div= ><div class=3D"gmail_signature">_________________________________<br>RF Lau= ff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.</div></div> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 25 September 2015 at 10:51, David & A= lison Webster <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com" t= arget=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p= adding-left:1ex"><u></u> <div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff"> <div>Hi Randy & All,</div> <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 When a wild animal chews bird bones, as they surely= do=20 sometimes, and this leads to perforation in the alimentary canal who would = ever=20 know ?</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But when a family pet chews bird bones, and this le= ads=20 to problems, the cause needs to be established only once for this=20 unlikely=C2=A0consequence to become widely known.=C2=A0Perforation or block= age=20 is unlikely but it can happen. </div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I know offhand of one instance where a=C2=A0man got= a=20 perforated esophagus from eating chicken which=C2=A0contained =C2=A0a=20 splintered=C2=A0=C2=A0bone, presumably made during processing.</div> <div>=C2=A0</div> <div>yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</div> <blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING= -RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D= "h5"> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20 <a title=3D"randy.lauff@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com" = target=3D"_blank">Randy=20 Lauff</a> </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.n= s.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">NatureNS</a= > </div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 9:= 51=20 AM</div> <div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] digestive tract= s of=20 mammals</div> <div><br></div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Well, there's a subject line you don't see every= day. <div><br></div> <div>I have a borrowed trail cam out and got a nice pic of a coyote; I ba= it=20 with supper left overs like chicken parts. One person I shared it with wa= s=20 aghast that I would do this..."chicken bones will splinter in their= =20 intestines".</div> <div><br></div> <div>I can't see this happening...they'll splinter when they'= re chewed,=20 <i>maybe (?)=C2=A0</i>a bit more due to the churning of the stomach. The= =20 intestine just isn't strong enough to cause splintering. And I have h= eard not=20 to feed your dog chicken bones because of the threat of splinters. Yet wi= ld=20 animals eat birds all the time, and I have come across scads of scats in = my=20 decades in the woods with splintered bone.</div> <div><br></div> <div>Can anyone resolve this conundrum? Why can wild mammals tolerate the= =20 bones while domestics (appa