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Hi Keith & All,
Interesting to be accused, in a condescending way, of being
condescending. That never has been my style.
I did not intend to be disagreeable. I intended to disagree and there is
a large difference between the two.
There may be any amount of internet chatter to the effect that Bayer is
up to some nefarious scheme but that does not prove it to be the case. It
will be nefarious if the Division which is being spun off with a hefty IPO
to defray debt is a dog, and is being spun off for that reason, but that is
another matter.
Blaming neonicotinoids for this decline of bees, in some parts of Asia,
is not the same as establishing the causes of this decline. There are many
other possible causes including misuse of the product.
For the time I will keep an open mind.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Lowe" <mythos25@live.com>
To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Neonicotinoid pesticide Goliath Bayer acrobatics in
play
> David,
>
> I suspect Mary knows all the facts in your condescending reply to her
> post.
> In addition to the obvious reasons divisions can be spun off, there are
> other more nefarious motivations for doing so and I believe Mary has a
> better grasp of the situation than you. There are places in Asia where
> there
> now have to hand-pollinate because the bees have disappeared in the last
> decade and they blame neonicotinoids. I hope the world litigates them out
> of
> existence.
>
> Keith Lowe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
> On Behalf Of David & Alison Webster
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:55 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Neonicotinoid pesticide Goliath Bayer acrobatics
> in
> play
>
> Hi Mary & All,
> I have intended to respond to your April 12 post for (obviously) some
> time and will eventually do so.
> Meanwhile I will send some general and specific comments with respect
> to
> the Sept 5 post.
> The internet has enormous power to focus attention, outrage etc. on
> specific matters and if this power is not balanced by a corresponding
> increase in restraint then the proverbial excrement hits a very large and
> rapidly rotating fan. The various versions of Arab Spring come to mind
> and,
> so far as I am aware, all of these initiatives have led to terribly
> adverse
> consequences.
>
> Getting back to the particular, it is common practice for companies to
> spin
> off Divisions which have become distinct and large enough to manage on
> their
> own and, in this case, the associated IPO will absorb much parent company
> debt.
>
> I have come to suspect that Bayer is a victim of misplaced public
> outrage. I may be wrong but what if Bayer products are better than any
> other
> choice? What would have been achieved if misplaced public pressure were to
> force Bayer to remove these (possibly) superior products from the market ?
>
> Farmers don't stay in business by making wrong choices. It is entirely
> possible however that neonicotinoid pesticides, applied to residential
> lots,
> do lead to bee damage; the premise being "if a little is good then a lot
> is
> better".
>
> Getting to the heart of any technical or scientific question is much
> more difficult than many suppose. And this job should be left to those who
> have the resources, background and experience to do so.
>
> Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Macaulay" <marymacaulay@hotmail.com>
> To: "Nova Scotia Nature" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 7:12 AM
> Subject: [NatureNS] Neonicotinoid pesticide Goliath Bayer acrobatics in
> play
>
>
>> Bayer restructuring? To protect assets from litigation perhaps? Bee
>> killing pesticides manufacturer spins off plastic division.
>> https://t.co/zWw37uYzyk
>>
>> With kindest regards
>>
>> Mary (Macaulay), P.Eng.
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