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color:#1f497d"> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01D0E4F3.28635A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Dave M. By eliminating what it can't be, I have concluded that it was some = effect of heat and pressure on elderly flesh. For want of a 25 cent word = (75 cents with tax included) I will call it reversible injury. =20 =20 Yt, DW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David McCorquodale=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spider bites There is much misinformation about spider bites. The links below are = all written by people who know about spiders. They are not afraid of = spiders nor spider bites. Chris Buddle, an arachnologist at McGill University has written about = spider bites, from the perspective of someone who knows about spiders. The original =E2=80=98Spiders do not bite=E2=80=99: = http://arthropodecology.com/2012/02/15/spiders-do-not-bite/ Chris=E2=80=99 interpretation of an academic paper on spider bites: = http://arthropodecology.com/2013/06/13/update-spiders-still-dont-bite/ More of the same for a broad audience: = http://www.scilogs.com/expiscor/the-truth-about-spider-bites-aggressive-s= piders-and-the-threat-to-public-health/ Robb Bennett, an arachnologist based in BC, has worked with physicians = to clear up misunderstandings about spider bites. This was in Canadian = Family Physician: http://www.cfp.ca/content/50/8/1098.short Enjoy the reading and keep an eye out for interesting spiders. DBMcC Georges RIver David McCorquodale Georges River, NS On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:52 AM, John Kearney = <john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Dave, Spider bites can transmit streptococcus and staphylococcus bacteria. = I had a spider bit on my right hand this summer which led to cellulitis. = About 60% of the skin on my upper hand was very swollen and red. More = information about cellulitis (symptoms, causes, treatment) can be found = on the website of the Mayo Clinic. John -----Original Message----- From: David & Alison Webster Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 6:56 PM To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: [NatureNS] Spider/centipede (?) bite Dear All, Aug 30, 2015 On Aug 17 I brought in a load of wood and carried some armloads of = small to the truck in the crook of my left arm. When I got home and washed = I found a red raised area on my left forearm, distal of the elbow crease by = about 1 cm; dull red, about as large as a quarter and raised about 3 mm in = the middle. The next day the joints of my left hand, digits and wrist, = ached noticably but only a few hours that one day. Over the following 13 = days the red area has gradually become fainter and lower; now still almost = quarter sized but barely present . I was not aware of having been stung where the reddish area is but = the wood tier was also a red ant apartment and I had many ant bites; a = mild sting would have been dismissed as just another ant bite. There frequently are spiders in these wood shelters and sometimes centipedes. So I am wondering if any of our species might be able to = do this; cause these symptoms without a noticable (painful) sting. There is no halo and I eliminated deer tick because it is not like = a tick to bite and run. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4409/10555 - Release Date: = 09/01/15 ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01D0E4F3.28635A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D5>Thanks Dave M.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D5> By eliminating what = it can't=20 be, I have concluded that it was some effect of heat and pressure on = elderly=20 flesh. For want of a 25 cent word (75 cents with tax included) I will = call=20 it reversible injury. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D5>Yt, DW</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Ddbmcc09@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:dbmcc09@gmail.com">David=20 McCorquodale</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 01, = 2015 9:57=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] Spider=20 bites</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>There is much misinformation = about spider=20 bites. The links below are all written by people who know about=20 spiders. They are not afraid of spiders nor spider = bites.</SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>Chris Buddle, an arachnologist = at McGill=20 University has written about spider bites, from the perspective of = someone who=20 knows about spiders.</SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>The original =E2=80=98Spiders = do not bite=E2=80=99: <A=20 = href=3D"http://arthropodecology.com/2012/02/15/spiders-do-not-bite/">http= ://arthropodecology.com/2012/02/15/spiders-do-not-bite/</A></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>Chris=E2=80=99 interpretation = of an academic paper=20 on spider bites: <A=20 = href=3D"http://arthropodecology.com/2013/06/13/update-spiders-still-dont-= bite/">http://arthropodecology.com/2013/06/13/update-spiders-still-dont-b= ite/</A></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>More of the same for a broad=20 audience: <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.scilogs.com/expiscor/the-truth-about-spider-bites-aggr= essive-spiders-and-the-threat-to-public-health/">http://www.scilogs.com/e= xpiscor/the-truth-about-spider-bites-aggressive-spiders-and-the-threat-to= -public-health/</A></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>Robb Bennett, an arachnologist = based in=20 BC, has worked with physicians to clear up misunderstandings about = spider=20 bites. This was in Canadian Family Physician:</SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.cfp.ca/content/50/8/1098.short">http://www.cfp.ca/cont= ent/50/8/1098.short</A></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US></SPAN> </P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>Enjoy the reading and keep an = eye out for=20 interesting spiders.</SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US><BR></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>DBMcC</SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN lang=3DEN-US>Georges RIver</SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR clear=3Dall> <DIV> <DIV class=3Dgmail_signature> <DIV dir=3Dltr>David McCorquodale <DIV>Georges River, NS</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:52 AM, John Kearney = <SPAN=20 dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"mailto:john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca"=20 target=3D_blank>john.kearney@ns.sympatico.ca</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20 class=3Dgmail_quote> <DIV lang=3DEN-CA vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"> <DIV> <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; = FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi=20 Dave,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P> <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; = FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Spider=20 bites can transmit streptococcus and staphylococcus bacteria. I had = a spider=20 bit on my right hand this summer which led to cellulitis. About 60% = of the=20 skin on my upper hand was very swollen and red. More information = about=20 cellulitis (symptoms, causes, treatment) can be found on the website = of the=20 Mayo Clinic.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P> <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; = FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John<U></U><U></U></SPAN></B></P> <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal><BR>-----Original = Message----- From: David & Alison Webster<BR>Sent: Sunday, = August 30,=20 2015 6:56 PM<BR>To: <A href=3D"mailto:NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca"=20 target=3D_blank>NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR>Subject: [NatureNS]=20 Spider/centipede (?) bite<BR><BR>Dear All,=20 = &= nbsp; &n= bsp; Aug=20 30, 2015<BR> On Aug 17 I brought in a load of wood and = carried=20 some armloads of small<BR>to the truck in the crook of my left arm. = When I=20 got home and washed I found<BR>a red raised area on my left forearm, = distal=20 of the elbow crease by about 1<BR>cm; dull red, about as large as a = quarter=20 and raised about 3 mm in the<BR>middle. The next day the joints of = my left=20 hand, digits and wrist, ached<BR>noticably but only a few hours that = one=20 day. Over the following 13 days the<BR>red area has gradually become = fainter=20 and lower; now still almost quarter<BR>sized but barely present=20 .<BR><BR> I was not aware of having been stung where the = reddish=20 area is but the<BR>wood tier was also a red ant apartment and I had = many ant=20 bites; a mild<BR>sting would have been dismissed as just another ant = bite.<BR><BR> There frequently are spiders in these wood = shelters=20 and sometimes<BR>centipedes. So I am wondering if any of our species = might=20 be able to do<BR>this; cause these symptoms without a noticable = (painful)=20 sting.<BR><BR> There is no halo and I eliminated deer = tick=20 because it is not like a<BR>tick<BR>to bite and run.<BR><BR>Yt, Dave = Webster, Kentville<BR><BR><U></U><U></U></P> <P=20 = class=3DMsoNormal><U></U><U></U> </P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>= <BR></DIV><A></A> <P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2015.0.6125 / = Virus=20 Database: 4409/10555 - Release Date: = 09/01/15</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0103_01D0E4F3.28635A10--
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