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<a href="../201507/42136.html">pr This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01D0B8FC.D705DF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve & All, July 7, 2015 You seem to have branched off into a quite unrelated matter; the = understandable reluctance of professional entomologists to devote = significant time to helping amateurs. Backing up a bit-- examining something in detail and generating (or = consulting) an image of it are complementary activities and have been = since the dawn of biology/art; 'a picture is worth a thousand words'. = After plowing through a key, and perhaps taking some wrong turns if this = is a first passage, it is of great reassurance to see that a dorsal view = in some reputable source agrees with the unknown. And in the absence of = this final confirmation (an image) any ID based on passage through an = unfamiliar key is tentative. =20 And to return to my original point, the beauty of some morphological = feature in insects (or any organism) can best be seen if suitable = magnification is used.=20 On the subject of improving attitudes about insects (and other = mostly harmless animals) there is unfortunately money to be made by = portraying them as creepy crawlies which must be destroyed. By chance, a Hammacher Schlemmer catalog arrived in the mail = yesterday and several items illustrate this:=20 1) for only $64.95 you can buy a bug vacuum which can vacuum "up 24 live = crickets in only 15 seconds" and is good also for "flies, bees, spiders and other insects." Best of all this is all done at arm's length (so = user is safe) and the bugs are killed by an electric grid. Look ma, not = pesticide. 2) and for only $69.95 you could buy a solar powered bug zapper which = "eliminates insects ..." within a half acre radius "...without requiring = proximity to a power outlet." Great use of green power; groan. And Look = ma, not pesticide 3) and for only $99.95 you can buy four solar insect zappers "and = harness the sun's energy to efficiently eliminate 100 varieties of = flying insects." UV light is used to attract insects "to eliminate them = instantly with a 300 volt electric charge, Look ma, not pesticide. 4) and for only $169.95 you could buy a Mosquito Eliminating UV-A Trap. = They are attracted by UV light and drawn by a fan into a net where they = die of dehydration; better than "propane systems that require frequent = refills or electrocution traps that release pathogens when an insect is = killed." And the darn bugs are dried out so emptying the net is real = easy. YT, DW, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Stephen Shaw" <srshaw@Dal.Ca> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 2:07 AM Subject: RE: See a lot by looking: Re: [NatureNS] Queen Bee > Hi Dave et al, > Dave you are right on this in principle, as I think has been discussed = here somewhat before, but practice may be different. Insect = taxonomists, a rare and non-expanding breed, will always want to see the = original pinned (dead) specimens to view them from different angles, in = order to put their names and valued reputations behind an = identification. But it is not part of busy taxonomists' job to do this, = so they may do it as an occasional favour to colleagues with plausible = professional needs, but good luck and likely no chance if you aren't in = this category, unless it's a very unusual specimen or location. On the = other hand, some specialists do trawl the submissions to BugGuide and = will give non-binding but valuable opinions on the identity of images, = without compromising themselves, and BugGuide itself has accumulated = consultant 'amateurs' with outside jobs who are just as well informed. = >=20 > So someone trying to popularize an insect, the original context here, = needs to get the bug identified at least to genus and hopefully to = species level in order to start talking at all, and imho there is almost = no chance to get this done by professionals: so original specimens are = not practically useful for this but good colour digital images are, if = submitted to BugGuide.net, Diptera.info (flies) and so on. As you say, = color in some cases fades in pinned specimens unless it's an = interference colour, so good colour is an added bonus in images of live = insects. This is a lesser problem for butterflies where identification = mostly depends on wing pattern and colour, and an excellent local = resource for this now exists on-line for NS. I think a good field guide = for Maine Odonata exists, applicable for NS too. But these are = relatively small, easy-ID groups compared to flies, hymenoptera and = beetles. Randy will know that an excellent guide for the 25 or so Deer = Fly species east of the rockies is available on-line, and there's also a = good one for hoverflies, but for most fly families there's nothing. I = don't know, for hymenoptera and beetles.=20 >=20 > The gizmo for temporarily holding pinned specimens to rotate them for = inspection is a 2-dimensional goniometer, allowing rotation and viewing = from almost any angle, adjustable about two axes held at right angles. = I once bought one from BioQuip in California. Google to BioQuip's = on-line catalogue to see images (under Microscopy) -- they stock two = goniometers which they call Microscope Stages, #6188 at US$32.95 (mine) = and #6186, $34.95. Both these would be used mainly under a dissecting = microscope or with a hand magnifying lens. They are not fancy high-tech = and yes you could make the 6188 one -- I once did so on a much smaller = scale for use under compound microscopes which mostly have very small = working distances, for inspecting insect eye optics from different = angles at high power. The Bioquip versions are much too tall to allow = this. > Steve (Hfx) =20 > ________________________________________ > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on = behalf of David & Alison Webster [dwebster@glinx.com] > Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 7:57 PM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: See a lot by looking: Re: [NatureNS] Queen Bee >=20 > Hi Steve & All, July 6, 2015 > I didn't intend to limit the concept of suitable magnification, so > something can be seen clearly, to images. Images are great for = recording > color which usually fades in a voucher but, to see an insect in = detail, > there is no subtitute for a mounted voucher so it, or select parts, = can be > viewed from a number of angles. And when applicable, viewed on a = number of > occasions. > One can buy a fairly expensive gizmo for holding vouchers at any = desired > angle or make a good one, mostly from scrap material, for next to = nothing. > To quote Brules & Melander (Preface to the1932 edition of = Classification > of Insects) "...nor can any comprehension of the i