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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01D0B23D.9201E010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jamie & All, JUNE 28, 2015 I think it was well established some 50 years ago that anting, which = may involve few or many ants, and with many variations, is largely for = removal of external pests. If your flesh is crawling with lice, mites, = ticks or some other vermin then a few (or many) ant bites is a small = price to pay for removal of the greater discomfort > bliss.=20 American Indians (I avoid the politically correct First Nation = People because, in addition to being awkward and historically = inaccurate, it suggests that there is something wrong with being an = Indian) used ants to remove lice etc. from their fur or fabric bedding . = They just scattered an ant hill and put the bedding over the disturbed = ants. It is also possible, although I don't recall having heard this, that = birds sometimes seek ant bites so that other kinds of discomfort are = diminished. In this vein, I was interested to read recently that some = Stone Age (literally then but probably cell phone age now) Natives of = Australian New Guinea (National Geographic 135(4): 568-592, 1969) rub = Stinging Nettles over their nearly naked bodies when they become tired = or in pain (p 581 & 590) and this eases the initial pain or this gives = them a second wind. Yt, Dave Webster Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shouty McShoutsalot=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] re tasty red ants vs. anting by birds Jim=20 This guy was not in a state of bliss. He was in the anting position = and clearly getting bit for his efforts. Which is understandable as the = ants would have been defending the nest. If the Raven was getting = formic acid based benefit he was paying the price. =20 Regards Jamie Simpson On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca> = wrote: =E2=80=9CAnting=E2=80=9D has nothing to do with eating ants, rather = it=E2=80=99s letting the ants do their thing in the feathers and skin of = the birds. Anting birds look like they are basking, with wings & tail = spread out and overall demeanor like the bird or birds is/are on a = =E2=80=9Chigh=E2=80=9D, enjoying the experience (too anthropomorphic?). = Cheers from Jim =E2=80=94 see the link for anting given in a previous = message.=20 P.S. to =E2=80=9CAt=E2=80=9D et al., I think we all should be = identifying ourselves on this list, so that we don=E2=80=99t get like = most social media. I am not suggesting rules on this, but wanting to = see names at end of messages. Begin forwarded message: From: At <hamst@xplornet.com> Subject: [NatureNS] Ants Date: June 28, 2015 at 10:08:27 AM PDT To: Nature McEvoy <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca According to a step son who used to eat them as a child the red = ants are the best! Sent from my iPad No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10113 - Release Date: = 06/28/15 ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01D0B23D.9201E010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Jamie & All, = =20 = =20 JUNE 28, 2015</DIV> <DIV> I think it was well established some 50 years = ago that=20 anting, which may involve few or many ants, and with many = variations,=20 is largely for removal of external pests. If your flesh is = crawling with=20 lice, mites, ticks or some other vermin then a few (or many) ant = bites is a=20 small price to pay for removal of the greater discomfort > = bliss.=20 </DIV> <DIV> American Indians (I avoid the politically = correct First=20 Nation People because, in addition to being awkward and = historically=20 inaccurate, it suggests that there is something wrong with being an = Indian)=20 used ants to remove lice etc. from their fur or fabric bedding . They=20 just scattered an ant hill and put the bedding over the disturbed=20 ants.</DIV> <DIV> It is also possible, although I don't recall = having=20 heard this, that birds sometimes seek ant bites so that other kinds = of=20 discomfort are diminished. In this vein, I was interested to read = recently=20 that some Stone Age (literally then but probably = cell=20 phone age now) Natives of Australian New Guinea (National Geographic = 135(4):=20 568-592, 1969) rub Stinging Nettles over their nearly naked bodies = when=20 they become tired or in pain (p 581 & 590) and this eases = the initial=20 pain or this gives them a second wind.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yt, Dave Webster Kentville</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Ddesolatechair@gmail.com = href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com">Shouty=20 McShoutsalot</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> = </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 28, 2015 = 6:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] re = tasty red ants=20 vs. anting by birds</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=3Dltr>Jim=20 <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>This guy was not in a state of bliss. He was in the anting = position=20 and clearly getting bit for his efforts. Which is understandable = as the=20 ants would have been defending the nest. If the Raven was = getting formic=20 acid based benefit he was paying the price.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Regards</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Jamie Simpson</DIV></DIV><BR> <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote> <DIV dir=3Dltr>On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM Jim Wolford <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</A>>=20 wrote:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20 class=3Dgmail_quote> <DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">=E2=80=9CAnting=E2=80=9D has = nothing to do with eating=20 ants, rather it=E2=80=99s letting the ants do their thing in the = feathers and skin=20 of the birds. Anting birds look like they are basking, with = wings=20 & tail spread out and overall demeanor like the bird or birds = is/are on=20 a =E2=80=9Chigh=E2=80=9D, enjoying the experience (too = anthropomorphic?). Cheers from=20 Jim =E2=80=94 see the link for anting given in a previous message.=20 <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>P.S. to =E2=80=9CAt=E2=80=9D et al., I think we all should be = identifying ourselves on=20 this list, so that we don=E2=80=99t get like most social = media. I am not=20 suggesting rules on this, but wanting to see names at end of = messages.<BR> <DIV><BR> <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: = 'Helvetica'"><B>From:=20 </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">At <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:hamst@xplornet.com"=20 target=3D_blank>hamst@xplornet.com</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>Subject: </B></SPAN><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>[NatureNS] = Ants</B><BR></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: = 'Helvetica'"><B>Date:=20 </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">June 28, 2015 = at=20 10:08:27 AM PDT<BR></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: = 'Helvetica'"><B>To:=20 </B></SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'">Nature McEvoy = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca"=20 target=3D_blank>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><B>Reply-To: </B></SPAN><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'"><A = href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca"=20 target=3D_blank>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR> <DIV>According to a step son who used to eat them as a child the = red ants=20 are the best!<BR><BR><BR>Sent from my=20 = iPad<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><A></= A> <P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2015.0.6037 / = Virus=20 Database: 4365/10113 - Release Date: = 06/28/15</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01D0B23D.9201E010--
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