[NatureNS] re politics etc. re Mother Canada Never Forgotten memorial for CPHNPark

From: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:15:40 -0700
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I don=92t like adding a =93ditto=94 and sending to the entire list, but =
I agree hugely with Dave Webster=92s words below, and kudos also to the =
sleuthing by Paul Schneidereit and the Globe & Mail editorial etc.  =
Every time we hear something new about this proposed project, it gets =
absolutely worse and worse and unbelievable that such antics could take =
place in our =93democratic=94 homeland!

Yours truly from Jim (in Burns Lake, B.C., temporarily)

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> From: Lois Codling <loiscodling@hfx.eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] "Unbiased" evaluation
> Date: June 24, 2015 at 6:37:49 PM PDT
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
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> Well said, Dave!
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> Lois Codling
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> On 24/06/2015 10:06 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:
>> Dear All,                                    June 24, 2015
>>     I don't want to beat a dead horse but what struck me in todays =
article was the relevation that this project presented as a  "...purely =
privately funded venture ... proceeding on the strength of its own =
merits, based on impartially done reviews.." is in fact the exact =
opposite.
>>     Approved by the Conservative government in August 2013, given =
gushing thumbs up by the CEO of Parks Canada two months later, helped by =
a $100,000 donation from Parks Canada (i.e. tax money) in 2013, =
evaluation of the project effected by a major stakeholder, afforded only =
two weeks for public consultation (being window dressing only why allow =
more time?) and, being established as a charity will be funded by $20 to =
$30 million of tax money.
>> =20
>>     In my view, the best way to honor those who lose their lives in =
defense of democracy and individual freedom is 1) to ensure that those =
who come back damaged in body or mind receive suitable financial support =
and medical care [not happening] and 2) to protect democracy and freedom =
from degradation [not happening].
>> =20
>>     And Nick, I don't think installation of a Mother Canada statue at =
some location (and I assume you mean some location not in the park) =
should be decided entirely by those who live within a 10 km radius; =
unless of course they proposed to return the 100 K to Parks Canada, =
forgo the charitable donation route and the associated $20 to $30 =
million tax money and use a size, design and name that is not deplorably =
crass.
>> =20
>>     And as noted in the Globe and Mail article there is a far more =
suitable memorial already in the Park; a modest cairn with words to =
honor their sacrifice.  They surely did not die so that the residents of =
Dingwall, Cape North or Ingonish could have a tourist attraction.
>> =20
>> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
>> =20
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John and Nhung
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:28 PM
>> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] "Unbiased" evaluation
>>=20
>> I share concern for the economy of northern Cape Breton, respect the =
voices from that part of the world more than those from the various =
supportive luminaries, and remain appalled at the proposal that this be =
built in a national park, the main objectives of which should be to =
preserve and protect nature, and educate the public  therein.
>>=20
>> The most constructive suggestion I have heard so far is that this =
thing be built north of the park, where the economy is struggling even =
more.
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On =
Behalf Of David & Alison Webster
>> Sent: June 24, 2015 9:25 AM
>> To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: [NatureNS] "Unbiased" evaluation
>>=20
>> Dear All,                        June 24, 2015
>>=20
>>     Interesting article in today's Chron.Hrld.
>>=20
>> =
http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1294831-schneidereit-a-monument-in-gr=
een-cove-to-conflicts-of-interest
>>=20
>>     What a mess.
>>=20
>> DW, Kentville
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I =
don=92t like adding a =93ditto=94 and sending to the entire list, but I =
agree hugely with Dave Webster=92s words below, and kudos also to the =
sleuthing by Paul Schneidereit and the Globe &amp; Mail editorial etc. =
&nbsp;Every time we hear something new about this proposed project, it =
gets absolutely worse and worse and unbelievable that such antics could =
take place in our =93democratic=94 homeland!<div><br></div><div>Yours =
truly from Jim (in Burns Lake, B.C., temporarily)<br><div><br><div>Begin =
forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, =
0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">Lois Codling &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:loiscodling@hfx.eastlink.ca">loiscodling@hfx.eastlink.ca</a=
>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>Re: [NatureNS] =
"Unbiased" evaluation</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">June 24, 2015 at =
6:37:49 PM PDT<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a=
 =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s=
pan></div><br><div><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Well said, Dave!<br><br>Lois =
Codling<br><br><br><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 24/06/2015 10:06 =
PM, David &amp; Alison Webster wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:7E9AEAB6DC2D441FA371BDBF4168E45B@D58WQPH1" =
type=3D"cite"><div>Dear All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; June 24, 2015</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>I don't want to beat a dead =
horse but what struck me in todays article was the relevation that this =
project presented as a&nbsp;&nbsp;"...purely privately funded =
venture&nbsp;...&nbsp;proceeding on the strength of its own merits, =
based on impartially done reviews.." is in fact the exact =
opposite.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Approved by the =
Conservative government in August 2013, given gushing thumbs up by the =
CEO of Parks Canada two months later, helped by a $100,000 donation from =
Parks Canada (i.e. tax money) in 2013, evaluation of the project =
effected by a major stakeholder,&nbsp;afforded only&nbsp;two =
weeks&nbsp;for public&nbsp;consultation (being&nbsp;window =
dressing&nbsp;only why&nbsp;allow more time?) and, being established as =
a charity will be funded by $20 to $30 million of tax =
money.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>In my view, the best way to =
honor those who lose their lives in defense of democracy and individual =
freedom is 1) to ensure that those who come back damaged in body or mind =
receive suitable financial support and medical care [not happening] and =
2) to protect democracy and freedom from degradation [not =
happening].</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>And Nick, I don't think =
installation of&nbsp;a Mother Canada statue at some location (and I =
assume you mean some location not in the park) should be decided =
entirely by those who live within a 10 km radius; unless of course they =
proposed to return the 100 K to Parks Canada, forgo the charitable =
donation route and the associated $20 to $30 million tax money and use a =
size, design and name that is not deplorably =
crass.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>And as noted in the Globe =
and Mail article there is a far more suitable memorial already in the =
Park; a modest cairn with words to honor their sacrifice.&nbsp; They =
surely did not die so that the residents of Dingwall, Cape North or =
Ingonish could have a tourist attraction.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Yt, =
Dave Webster, Kentville</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: =
normal; font-family: arial;">----- Original Message -----</div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial =
initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><b>From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
title=3D"nhungjohn@eastlink.ca" href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">John=
 and Nhung</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: arial;"><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a></div><=
div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, June 24, 2015 =
6:28 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: =
arial;"><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>RE: [NatureNS] "Unbiased" =
evaluation</div><div><br></div><p dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">I share concern for the economy of northern Cape =
Breton, respect the voices from that part of the world more than =
those</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><font face=3D"Calibri">from =
the various supportive luminaries, and remain appalled at the proposal =
that this be built in</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><font =
face=3D"Calibri">a national park, the main objectives of which should be =
to preserve and protect nature, and educate the public&nbsp; =
therein.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span=
 lang=3D"en-ca"><font face=3D"Calibri">The most constructive suggestion =
I have heard so far is that this thing be built</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"><b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><font=
 face=3D"Calibri">north</font></b></span><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri"><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>of =
the park, where the economy is struggling even more.</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">-----Original =
Message-----<br>From:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a=
 class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a>[<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">mailto:naturens-owner@chebuc=
to.ns.ca</a>] On Behalf Of David &amp; Alison Webster<br>Sent: June 24, =
2015 9:25 AM<br>To:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" =
href=3D"mailto:NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>Sub=
ject: [NatureNS] "Unbiased" evaluation</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">Dear =
All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
June 24, 2015</font></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Interesting article in =
today's Chron.Hrld.</font></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"></span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1294831-schneidereit-a-monume=
nt-in-green-cove-to-conflicts-of-interest"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">http://thechronicleherald.ca/opinion/1294831-schneidereit=
-a-monument-in-green-cove-to-conflicts-of-interest</font></span><span =
lang=3D"en-ca"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-ca"></span></p><p =
dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
face=3D"Calibri">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>What a =
mess.</font></span></p><p dir=3D"ltr"><span lang=3D"en-ca"><font =
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