[NatureNS] another kill of goldfish

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Thanks Andrew. I think you may be correct: John understood the
goldfish/amphibian issue but the method and the action seems to have come
from another who I never met.
Sorry to muddy the waters.
The current fish deaths are a mystery to me as I had always thought
goldfish=3Dcarp and that they are the next hardiest thing to African lungfi=
sh
in terms of oxygen availability.
Nick



On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Hebda, Andrew J <Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.c=
a
> wrote:

>  Hi Nick
>
>
>
> A correction here..  Discussed this with John
>
>
>
> John was asked about using that approach.  He has an absolute personal
> prohibition on introducing any fish to any new habitats.  The proposal wa=
s
> made by a former DNR/ Fisheries  biologist who is now retired.
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> A Hebda
>
> NSM Collections
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Hill
> *Sent:* May-04-15 8:22 AM
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] another kill of goldfish
>
>
>
> John Gilhen introduced two bass into the Mount Saint Vincent pond which
> had a large goldfish population that he felt was keeping amphibians down.
>
> It seemed to work to reduce the goldfish
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Donna Crossland <dcrossland@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>
>  After having read about the goldfish die-off in Port Williams, it nudged
> me to ask a friend in Windsor about his pond (which  was fully stocked wi=
th
> goldfish a couple of years ago).  Indeed, he reports that 100s were dead
> around his pond this spring.
>
>
>
> They would like to rid themselves of the remaining live goldfish and allo=
w
> native species to thrive.   The goldfish were introduced by a previous
> owner.   (I=E2=80=99d been hinting for the past couple of years that they=
 are
> missing out on a wonderful spring chorus from their pond, and that any
> tadpoles must be rapidly consumed by voracious goldfish.)  They are now
> asking for specific  instructions on how to do this.  Anyone?
>
>
>
> My only suggestion was to pump it dry, scoop up all the fish.  If by some
> miracle there are some frogs or salamanders in the pond, they should
> survive nicely without pond water for a time.  After a day or so, allow t=
he
> pond to refill.  I am not an aquatics biologist, and I haven=E2=80=99t re=
searched
> this.  Better ideas anyone?
>
>
>
> Saw two broad-winged hawks on my travels to the far reaches of Kings
> County today in East Dalhousie.  Tree swallows (at least two pair) flying
> about at their usual nesting area in Cherryfield, and one tree swallow on
> Mack Lake.  It prompted me to check the nest box situation there.  There
> remains some house-keeping to do-on the list for this week!
>
>
>
> Donna Crossland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Andrew. I think you may be correct:=C2=A0John =
understood the goldfish/amphibian issue but the method and the action seems=
 to have come from=C2=A0another who I never met.</div><div>Sorry to muddy t=
he waters.</div><div>The current fish deaths are a mystery to me as I had a=
lways thought goldfish=3Dcarp and that they are the next hardiest thing to =
African lungfish in terms of oxygen availability. </div><div>Nick</div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Hebda, Andrew J <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca" target=3D"_blank=
">Andrew.Hebda@novascotia.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-CA" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Hi Nick<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">A correction here..=C2=A0 Discus=
sed this with John<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">John was asked about using that =
approach.=C2=A0 He has an absolute personal prohibition on introducing any =
fish to any new habitats.=C2=A0 The
 proposal was made by a former DNR/ Fisheries =C2=A0biologist who is now re=
tired.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Andrew<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">A Hebda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">NSM Collections<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-own=
er@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.=
ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Hill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May-04-15 8:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">nat=
urens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] another kill of goldfish<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">John Gilhen introduced two bass into the Mount Saint=
 Vincent=C2=A0pond which had a large goldfish population that he felt was k=
eeping amphibians down.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It seemed to work to reduce the goldfish<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Nick<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Donna Crossland &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:dcrossland@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">dcrossland@east=
link.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non=
e none none solid;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-left:4.8pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">After having read about the gold=
fish die-off in Port Williams, it nudged me to ask a friend in Windsor
 about his pond (which =C2=A0was fully stocked with goldfish a couple of ye=
ars ago).=C2=A0 Indeed, he reports that 100s were dead around his pond this=
 spring.=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">They would like to rid themselve=
s of the remaining live goldfish and allow native species to thrive.
 =C2=A0=C2=A0The goldfish were introduced by a previous owner.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
(I=E2=80=99d been hinting for the past couple of years that they are missin=
g out on a wonderful spring chorus from their pond, and that any tadpoles m=
ust be rapidly consumed by voracious goldfish.)=C2=A0 They are now
 asking for specific =C2=A0instructions on how to do this.=C2=A0 Anyone?</s=
pan><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">My only suggestion was to pump i=
t dry, scoop up all the fish.=C2=A0 If by some miracle there are some frogs
 or salamanders in the pond, they should survive nicely without pond water =
for a time.=C2=A0 After a day or so, allow the pond to refill.=C2=A0 I am n=
ot an aquatics biologist, and I haven=E2=80=99t researched this.=C2=A0 Bett=
er ideas anyone?=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Saw two broad-winged hawks on my=
 travels to the far reaches of Kings County today in East Dalhousie.=C2=A0
 Tree swallows (at least two pair) flying about at their usual nesting area=
 in Cherryfield, and one tree swallow on Mack Lake.=C2=A0 It prompted me to=
 check the nest box situation there.=C2=A0 There remains some house-keeping=
 to do-on the list for this week!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Donna Crossland</span><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(136,136,136)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
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