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Index of Subjects This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A93_01D077B1.D9B7EA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nick & All, Apr 15, 2015 I agree almost entirely with your analysis Nick.=20 In the real world, most choices involve selecting the lesser of two = evils and, given available options, I have felt for decades that wind = was way better than alternatives and should be quickly developed to the = maximum possible. =20 Nuclear however may make a comeback eventually. The great = disadvantage of conventional Nuclear Power has been the production of = radioactive waste (unless you happen to want the waste for potential = production of dirty atomic weapons). But an alternative based on = Thorium, in addition to modular design advantages, leads to 95% less = nuclear waste.=20 But that is for the distant future and, meanwhile, ways to cut = carbon emissions so climates and ecosystems do not enter an interactive = death spiral should be top on the agenda. Without meaningful cuts in = carbon emissions there will be no distant future for many species in = much of the world. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholas Hill=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] wind turbines This isn't an apology for wind farms but context. What are we to use = for power? If we use fossil C then the impact on climate and variability of = weather patterns are more pronounced. If we use large scale hydro we get large impacts on the functionally = important and biodiverse riparian zone. Major use of forest for biomass = energy will have widespread impact on forest soils their carbon reserves = and on forest diversity. Nuclear is an option that few appear to support. Given the lineup, as naturalists one might think we would look on wind = more favorably than the others from a habitat and biodiversity = viewpoint.=20 having been part of an assessment of impacts of wind turbines on = wetlands and privee to the process of assessing impacts on birds, I was = impressed at the scrutiny exercised by DNR wildlife division. These are = complex issues and none, save major reduction in energy use, are without = impacts. It is good that naturalists show their concerns over these = choices. Nick n Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca> = wrote: > > On 4/15/2015 11:19 AM, Laviolette, Lance (EXP) wrote: > >> Lastly, the last time I looked at the guidelines for conducting = bird inventories at potential sites they appeared to be inadequate. = Determining whether there was a risk to migrating birds by censusing a = site 2-3 times during the fall migrating period just doesn't cut it. = That was a while ago so perhaps they've now been improved. > > > * back in the 19th Century, Uncle Henry David affirmed that to = understand a landscape we need one full-time recording naturalist for = every six miles (each 10km square in modern parlance). > > I've never seen any evidence that he was wrong about this. > > fred. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad > Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/ > Vulnerable Watersheds - http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/ > Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm > RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0 > on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W > (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ On Apr 15, 2015 2:40 PM, "Fred Schueler" <bckcdb@istar.ca> wrote: On 4/15/2015 11:19 AM, Laviolette, Lance (EXP) wrote: Lastly, the last time I looked at the guidelines for conducting = bird inventories at potential sites they appeared to be inadequate. = Determining whether there was a risk to migrating birds by censusing a = site 2-3 times during the fall migrating period just doesn't cut it. = That was a while ago so perhaps they've now been improved. * back in the 19th Century, Uncle Henry David affirmed that to = understand a landscape we need one full-time recording naturalist for = every six miles (each 10km square in modern parlance). I've never seen any evidence that he was wrong about this. fred. ------------------------------------------------------------ Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/ Vulnerable Watersheds - http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/ Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0 on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4331/9535 - Release Date: = 04/14/15 ------=_NextPart_000_0A93_01D077B1.D9B7EA10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Nick & All, = =20 = Apr=20 15, 2015</DIV> <DIV> I agree almost entirely with your analysis Nick. = </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> In the real world, most choices involve = selecting the=20 lesser of two evils and, given available options, I have felt for = decades that=20 wind was way better than alternatives and should be quickly developed to = the=20 maximum possible.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Nuclear however may make a comeback eventually. = The=20 great disadvantage of conventional Nuclear Power has been the production = of=20 radioactive waste (unless you happen to want the waste for potential = production=20 of dirty atomic weapons). But an alternative based on Thorium, in = addition=20 to modular design advantages, leads to 95% less nuclear = waste.=20 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> But that