[NatureNS] Bayberry

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Hi Nick & All,                                    Jan 31, 2015
    I also, about 1959, did the obvious; simered about 5L of berries in =
8L of water+berries and got a yield of nice odor and almost no wax.=20
    Because partitioning the agreeable odor is the objective I would try =
a different approach entirely it I were to attempt this again.=20
    The melting point of Bayberry wax is fairly low; 42-48oC (Place & =
Stiles, Auk paper) So a logical first step would be to feed berries =
slowly into a rotating inclined screen cylinder in an enclosure that was =
heated to about 65oC and wick wax from the zone of melting with a fixed =
wiper blade. Wax isolated in this way might be clean enough for some =
purposes. If too dirty then the isolated wax could be distilled into =
melted paraffin wax.
    Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Nicholas Hill=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Bayberry


  that's super, Margaret. We tried a few years ago, got discouraged =
because we didnt really trust the process. Will try again. Any tips?
  I have often seen bayberry in mink scats in the fall.

  On Jan 30, 2015 7:19 PM, "Margaret Fraser" <m_fraser65@yahoo.ca> =
wrote:

  No virus found in this message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
  Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4273/9027 - Release Date: =
01/30/15

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<DIV>Hi Nick &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jan 31, 2015</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I also, about 1959, did the obvious; simered =
about 5L of=20
berries in 8L of water+berries and got a yield of nice odor and almost =
no wax.=20
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Because partitioning&nbsp;the agreeable odor is =
the=20
objective I would&nbsp;try a different approach entirely it I were to =
attempt=20
this again. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The melting point of Bayberry wax is fairly low; =
42-48oC=20
(Place &amp; Stiles, Auk paper) So a logical first step would be to feed =
berries=20
slowly into a&nbsp;rotating inclined screen cylinder in an enclosure =
that was=20
heated to about 65oC and wick wax from the zone of melting with a fixed =
wiper=20
blade. Wax isolated in this way might be clean enough for some purposes. =
If too=20
dirty then the isolated wax could be distilled into melted paraffin =
wax.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] =
Bayberry</DIV>
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  <P>that's super, Margaret. We tried a few years ago, got discouraged =
because=20
  we didnt really trust the process. Will try again. Any tips?<BR>I have =
often=20
  seen bayberry in mink scats in the fall.</P>
  <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Jan 30, 2015 7:19 PM, "Margaret Fraser" =
&lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:m_fraser65@yahoo.ca">m_fraser65@yahoo.ca</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR=20
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  message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2015.0.5645 / =
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  Database: 4273/9027 - Release Date: =
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