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< Hi Dusan & All, Jan 7, 2015 A sewer outfall might generate some anoxic zones (perhaps) but surely not all of Halifax Harbour. The feeding to which I refer would be on suspended particles (mostly live or dead bacteria I would expect) and of course in an aerated volume wherever that might be. Yt, DW, Kentville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Sewer Strolls: Before and After Harbour Cleanup ? > not ragworms? Some can handle anoxic conditions...defies biochem maybe > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Dusan Soudek <soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote: >> I can see that a well-deigned and properly maintained (i.e., mechanically >> aerated) sewage lagoon or engineered marsh can support a highly diverse >> and >> productive ecosystem. But not if the decomposing sewage makes the water >> column anoxic. Nothing but anaerobic bacteria survive there... >> Dusan Soudek >> >> >> From: David & Alison Webster >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:19 PM >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Sewer Strolls: Before and After Harbour Cleanup ? >> >> Hello: >> Would not many forms of zooplankton species >> Feed directly on soup that is made out of feces ? >> And thus form a meal for the next larger size >> Until some can be seen using unaided eyes. >> Yt, DW, Kentville >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dusan Soudek >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:59 PM >> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Sewer Strolls: Before and After Harbour Cleanup ? >> >> These are interesting observations. I can see how fertilizing a harbour >> with >> sewage will increase its primary production and shift if from attached >> plants (kelp, eelgrass, etc.) to phytoplankton. But I doubt that the >> unmentionables we flush down our toilets are directly available to >> seabirds >> and seals as food. The stuff forms local sewage upwellings (sewage is >> warm), >> is dispersed by tidal currents, and broken down by decomposers, which >> eventually liberate the phosphates and nitrates... >> Dusan Soudek >> >> On January 6, 2015 at 12:40 PM jen cooper <iffercooper@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I can't speak to Halifax Harbour but for comparison... >> The Sydney side of Sydney harbour was fitted with wastewater >> infrastructure >> within the last ten years. Since the diversion of wastewater the clusters >> of >> diving ducks and seals, have either left or are very obviously not as >> plentiful as they used to be. On the west side of the harbour where >> infrastructure is yet to come (but on the way!) ducks still frequent the >> outfalls. >> >> My two cents on why, are these: >> >> Wastewater does cause eutrophication, fertilizing plants and algae (an >> onwards up the web). Food availability would definatley be different at >> outfalls than where there are none. >> >> Often times, here, the warmer water at outfalls causes openings in the >> ice. >> In some areas these are the only access points to the water. >> >> :) Jen >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Sewer Strolls: Before and After Harbour Cleanup ? >> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 18:21:18 -0400 >> >> Joanne, >> an excellent question. A broader one is what is it that attracts birds >> to >> the outfalls? The warm temperature of the discharge? it seems that a lot >> of >> the herring and great black-backed gulls that used to frequent the Point >> Pleasant Park outfalls were just bathing. Lots of preening, wind >> fluttering, >> etc. is the attraction the fish that are themselves attracted to this >> warm >> water? The sewage itself? >> Dusan Soudek >> From: Joanne Cook >> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2015 5:44 PM >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Sewer Strolls: Before and After Harbour Cleanup ? >> Dusan, >> >> I was wondering the same thing yesterday, and also wondering about the >> temperature of the current effluent, and what effects it has - if any - >> where it emerges. >> >> cheers, >> Joanne >> >> >> >> ____________________________________ >> Do not meddle with the Forces of Nature, for you are small, >> insignificant, >> and biodegradable. >> ____________________________________ >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dusan Soudek <soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >> Just curious: Have there been any noticeable changes in the numbers >> and >> species of waterfowl associated with Halifax Harbour sewer outlets since >> the >> Harbour Solutions project was completed? Only a small percentage of the >> city’s raw sewage gets dumped into the harbour these days, more so after >> periods of heavy rainfall when the sewage plants are overwhelmed by >> discharge from combined sewers... >> Dusan Soudek >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8882 - Release Date: 01/06/15 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8882 - Release Date: 01/06/15 >
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