[NatureNS] more on Impatiens species from Martin Thomas

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Hi Jim & All,
    The more things change the more they are the same. The criteria =
described below for distinguishing I. capensis and I. pallida are in =
full agreement with keys in Fernald (1950) and in Roland & Smith (1969). =

    But I had forgotten (and perhaps never knew) that the sac which =
bears the spur is a modified sepal.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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  Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:57 PM
  Subject: [NatureNS] more on Impatiens species from Martin Thomas


  On Sept. 3 Martin Thomas wrote me the following note in response to =
mine, and he includes the Scots=92 Bay expanding colony of pink =
jewelweed (Himalayan Balsam) that Ian McKay just reported.  Jim in =
Wolfville





    Dear Jim:
                    I was interested in your comments on Impatiens spp. =
Alain Beliveau who now works for ACDC in Sackville, NB, and I have been =
checking up on Impatiens capensis and pallida in NS, largely because of =
the great differences in specific characteristics in various =
descriptions in available books and because if one looks at large =
populations of capensis around here, the variations within that species =
are huge. We have concluded that leaf colour, shape and length of =
petiole are not reliable characteristics and that flower colour and =
spotting are also unreliable although pallida seems to be paler and the =
spotting weaker. However, the length and shape of the spur and nectary =
seem reliable. In capensis the spur is reflexed forward along the =
underside of the main flower and the nectary sac is longer than wide, =
while in pallida a shorter spur turns down at right angles to the flower =
axis and the nectary sac is wider than long. Nobody we know has ever =
seen pallida for sure. There are old records for pallida from both Capes =
Blomidon and Split. However, we have searched high and low in both =
locations with no firm results. The only populations we found on =
Blomidon are around the lower parking lot especially down the stairs at =
the start of the Jodrey Trail where a wet area is good habitat, =
supporting large numbers of specimens. All those there are typical =
capensis. Up on the Cape proper we have found none even though there are =
many areas of suitable habitat. At Cape Split there are lots of capensis =
along the roadsides before you get to the new parking lot, along and off =
the trail there are scattered specimens but few of them are in flower. =
Half way up the incline to the top ridge is a wet area where several =
little streams cross the main trail and create muddy footing. There, a =
small population has some of the characteristics of pallida especially =
in regard to the spur and nectary but the colour is a light orange. The =
only large population ofpallida mentioned in the literature is on Isle =
Haut. However, the cost of getting there is quite high unless a fair =
sized group all contributed.
                    Incidentally, there is a large patch of Himalayan =
Balsam on both sides of the final stretch of road to Cape Split which is =
certainly spreading and a little further on, on the right a very large =
area of Canadian Burnet spreading widely. Its white plumes of flowers =
are very obvious right now.
    All the best,   Martin.


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