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and Split. However, we have searched high and low in both l This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CFCAD7.23712230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim & All, The more things change the more they are the same. The criteria = described below for distinguishing I. capensis and I. pallida are in = full agreement with keys in Fernald (1950) and in Roland & Smith (1969). = But I had forgotten (and perhaps never knew) that the sac which = bears the spur is a modified sepal. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Wolford=20 To: naturens=20 Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 5:57 PM Subject: [NatureNS] more on Impatiens species from Martin Thomas On Sept. 3 Martin Thomas wrote me the following note in response to = mine, and he includes the Scots=92 Bay expanding colony of pink = jewelweed (Himalayan Balsam) that Ian McKay just reported. Jim in = Wolfville Dear Jim: I was interested in your comments on Impatiens spp. = Alain Beliveau who now works for ACDC in Sackville, NB, and I have been = checking up on Impatiens capensis and pallida in NS, largely because of = the great differences in specific characteristics in various = descriptions in available books and because if one looks at large = populations of capensis around here, the variations within that species = are huge. We have concluded that leaf colour, shape and length of = petiole are not reliable characteristics and that flower colour and = spotting are also unreliable although pallida seems to be paler and the = spotting weaker. However, the length and shape of the spur and nectary = seem reliable. In capensis the spur is reflexed forward along the = underside of the main flower and the nectary sac is longer than wide, = while in pallida a shorter spur turns down at right angles to the flower = axis and the nectary sac is wider than long. Nobody we know has ever = seen pallida for sure. There are old records for pallida from both Capes = Blomidon and Split. However, we have searched high and low in both = locations with no firm results. The only populations we found on = Blomidon are around the lower parking lot especially down the stairs at = the start of the Jodrey Trail where a wet area is good habitat, = supporting large numbers of specimens. All those there are typical = capensis. Up on the Cape proper we have found none even though there are = many areas of suitable habitat. At Cape Split there are lots of capensis = along the roadsides before you get to the new parking lot, along and off = the trail there are scattered specimens but few of them are in flower. = Half way up the incline to the top ridge is a wet area where several = little streams cross the main trail and create muddy footing. There, a = small population has some of the characteristics of pallida especially = in regard to the spur and nectary but the colour is a light orange. The = only large population ofpallida mentioned in the literature is on Isle = Haut. However, the cost of getting there is quite high unless a fair = sized group all contributed. Incidentally, there is a large patch of Himalayan = Balsam on both sides of the final stretch of road to Cape Split which is = certainly spreading and a little further on, on the right a very large = area of Canadian Burnet spreading widely. Its white plumes of flowers = are very obvious right now. All the best, Martin. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8167 - Release Date: = 09/07/14 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01CFCAD7.23712230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dwindows-1252" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Jim & All,</DIV> <DIV> The more things change the more they are the = same. The=20 criteria described below for distinguishing <EM>I. capensis</EM> = and <EM>I.=20 pallida </EM>are in full agreement with keys in Fernald (1950) and in = Roland=20 & Smith (1969). </DIV> <DIV> But I had forgotten (and perhaps never knew) = that the=20 sac which bears the spur is a modified sepal.</DIV> <DIV>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">Jim=20 Wolford</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, = 2014 5:57=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] more on = Impatiens=20 species from Martin Thomas</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>On Sept. 3 Martin Thomas wrote me the following note in = response to mine, and he includes the Scots=92 Bay expanding colony of = pink=20 jewelweed (Himalayan Balsam) that Ian McKay just reported. 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