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Ken asks, "I am unsure why swifts disappear from the roosts before nesting
season is done." I assume that those at the roost are non-breeders? So I
guess one could ask "Why do they stay this late?" I realize that the first
frost, let alone persistent frosts, are still weeks away, but it could be
that the non-breeders just aren't going to take the chance and hence fly
south with guarantees of good insect abundances in their journey.
My 1.89 cents worth.
Randy
_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.
On 14 August 2014 23:45, Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
> Ken McKenna
> Box 218 Stellarton NS
> B0K 1S0
> 902 752-7644
> Hi James
> I am sure Helene will chime in on this, but the birds found were displaced
> from a chimney nest and delivered sans parents to a New Glasgow vet clinic
> and had quite a ways to go before being released. Helene likes to release
> at a known roost in the evening as the other birds in the area are going in
> and thus the young ones will be guided by others as to when and where to go
> in migration. This gets less reliable after mid August. as birds going to
> roosts declines to nil. In New Glasgow tonight I had 9 birds so soon all
> will be gone from this area and it will be awhile before the Quebec bound
> rescued swifts will be released. I know there are still swifts on or near
> nests. I am unsure why swifts disappear from the roosts before nesting
> season is done. One of life's little mysteries?? It sure has been proven
> in spades this year that many swiftlings are around in August. For the last
> number of years, I have seen very few swifts in Pictou Co. after
> mid-August.
> cheers
> Ken
>
> PS It also could be possible there are other birds already in the chimney
> before I arrived tonite, but I think that is less likely.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gmail.com>
> *To:* naturens <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] Swift nests
>
> hi folks,
>
> Just some thoughts re: the Herald and New Glasgow articles on the
> re-habbed 'Swiftlings'. Local experts please chi(r)p in and correct any
> misinformation.
>
> Are NS Chimney Swifts 'gone from the province by mid August'?
> - the breeding period for Swifts in the Maritimes is May-Sept (via BSC)
> - there are currently still active nests in the province (some known and
> many unknown)
> - although counts at the major roosts suggest that drops in numbers seem
> to occur throughout August, in many years birds are sticking around until
> early September (late nesters like this?)
> - in "All the Birds of Nova Scotia" Ian states, "most leave by
> mid-September"
>
> Neither the Herald nor New Glasgow article mentions that Chimney Swift
> young discovered in August do not necessarily need our help if found. Just
> suggesting it would be unfortunate for the meme to be promoted that August
> Swiftlings are unusual and need to be helped if found. ('rescuing' is a
> different discussion!)
>
> (to clarify, I'm not arguing that these New Glasgow Swifts should not have
> been helped in some way by Cobequid; just that Swifts are likely not gone
> from NS by mid-August, and August Swiftlings are perhaps not unusual. In
> the spirit of discussion, happy to hear arguments otherwise that bring us
> closest to the true story for NS).
>
> cheers,
> James.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:36 AM, David & Alison Webster <
> dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All, Aug 14, 2014
>> I notice in yesterday's Chron. Hrld. article (Swifts perk up after
>> Cobequid centre care) that "The swifts usually leave the small nest
>> attached to the inside of a chimney at dawn..." which lays the groundwork
>> for a host of further explanations such as-- but sometimes remove it then
>> if the early market for false bird's nest soup is trending upward. -- and
>> arrange to have it removed later in the day when it is not so darn dark in
>> there. -- and sometimes just leave it there and move on; provided they
>> can find some safe place where they can abandon the kids.
>>
>>
>> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> James Churchill
> Kentville, Nova Scotia
> jameslchurchill@gmail.com
> (902) 681-2374 <%28902%29%20681-2374>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ken asks, "<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-seri=
f;font-size:12.666666984558105px">I am unsure why swifts disappear from the=
roosts before nesting season is done." I assume that those at the roo=
st are non-breeders? So I guess one could ask "Why do they stay this l=
ate?" I realize that the first frost, let alone persistent frosts, are=
still weeks away, but it could be that the non-breeders just aren't go=
ing to take the chance and hence fly south with guarantees of good insect a=
bundances in their journey.</span><div>
<span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px"=
><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12.666666984558105px">My 1.89 cents worth.</span></div><div><span style=
=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.666666984558105px">Randy</spa=
n></div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>___________________=
______________<br>RF Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, N=
S.</div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 14 August 2014 23:45, Ken McKenna <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank=
">kenmcken@eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
<u></u>
<div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Ken McKenna<br>Box 218 Stellarton NS<br>B0K 1S0<br><a href=3D"tel:902%=
20752-7644" value=3D"+19027527644" target=3D"_blank">902 752-7644</a><br></=
div>
<div>Hi James</div>
<div>I am sure Helene will chime in on this, but the birds found were displ=
aced=20
from a chimney nest=C2=A0and delivered sans parents to a New Glasgow vet cl=
inic=20
and had quite a ways to go before being released. Helene likes to release a=
t a=20
known roost in the evening as the other birds in the area are going in and =
thus=20
the young ones will be guided by others as to when and where to go in migra=
tion.=20
This gets less reliable after mid August. as birds going to roosts declines=
to=20
nil. In New Glasgow tonight I had 9 birds so soon all will be gone from thi=
s=20
area and it will be awhile before the Quebec bound rescued swifts will be=
=20
released. I know there are still swifts on or near nests. I am unsure why s=
wifts=20
disappear from the roosts before nesting season is done. One of life's =
little=20
mysteries?? =C2=A0It sure has been proven in spades this year that many=20
swiftlings are around in August. For the last number of years, I have seen =
very=20
few swifts in Pictou Co. after mid-August. </div>
<div>cheers</div>
<div>Ken</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">PS It also could be possible there are other bird=
s=20
already in the chimney before I arrived tonite, but I think that is less li=
kely.=20
</font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>----- Original Message ----- </div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#000000 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;PADDING=
-RIGHT:0px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-RIGHT:0px" dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"jameslchurchill@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">James Churchill</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"naturens@chebucto.n=
s.ca" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens</a=
> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:=
25=20
PM</div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Swift nests=
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>hi folks,=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Just some thoughts re: the Herald and New Glasgow articles on the=20
re-habbed 'Swiftlings'. Local experts please chi(r)p in and corre=
ct any=20
misinformation.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Are NS Chimney Swifts 'gone from the province by mid=20
August'?=C2=A0<br></div>
<div>- the breeding period for Swifts in the Maritimes is May-Sept (via=
=20
BSC)</div>
<div>- there are currently still active nests in the province (some known=
and=20
many unknown)</div>
<div>- although counts at the major roosts suggest that drops in numbers =
seem=20
to occur throughout August, in many years birds are sticking around until=
=20
early September (late nesters like this?)<br></div>
<div>- in "All the Birds of Nova Scotia" Ian states, "most=
leave by=20
mid-September"<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Neither the Herald nor New Glasgow article mentions that Chimney Swi=
ft=20
young discovered in August do not necessarily need our help if found. Jus=
t=20
suggesting it would be unfortunate for the meme to be promoted that Augus=
t=20
Swiftlings are unusual and need to be helped if found. ('rescuing'=
; is a=20
different discussion!)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>(to clarify, I'm not arguing that these New Glasgow Swifts shoul=
d not=20
have been helped in some way by Cobequid; just that Swifts are likely not=
gone=20
from NS by mid-August, and August Swiftlings are perhaps not unusual. In =
the=20
spirit of discussion, happy to hear arguments otherwise that bring us clo=
sest=20
to the true story for NS).=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>cheers,<br></div>
<div>James.</div>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:36 AM, David & A=
lison=20
Webster <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Dear All, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Aug 14, 2014<br>=C2=A0=
=20
=C2=A0I notice in yesterday's Chron. Hrld. article (Swifts perk up =
after=20
Cobequid centre care) that "The swifts usually leave the small nes=
t attached=20
to the inside of a chimney at dawn..." which lays the groundwork f=
or a host=20
of further explanations such as-- but sometimes remove it then if the e=
arly=20
market for false bird's nest soup is trending upward. =C2=A0-- and =
arrange=20
to have it removed later in the day when it is not so darn dark in ther=
e.=20
=C2=A0-- =C2=A0and sometimes just leave it there and move on; provided =
they=20
can find some safe place where they can abandon the kids.<br><br><br>Yt=
,=20
Dave Webster, Kentville<br><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"=
all"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<div><br></div>-- <br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">James Churchill<br>Kentville, Nova Scotia<br><a href=3D"=
mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jameslchurchill@gmail.c=
om</a><br><a href=3D"tel:%28902%29%20681-2374" value=3D"+19026812374" targe=
t=3D"_blank">(902)=20
681-2374</a><br><br><br><br></div></font></span></div></div></div></block=
quote></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
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