[NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was probable fisher sighting kings co ns

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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:21:22 -0700
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Hi Lance and All=0AThis talk of Fishers reminds me of the time 20+ years ag=
o in=C2=A0 late winter I was on a walk on a woods road in Keji when I came =
across a porcupine skin all neatly wrapped. The flesh side was out with the=
 meat cleaned off and the quills were pointed in. The whole affair about th=
e size of a football.=0AA friend told me that a fisher had killed and eaten=
 the porcupine.=C2=A0 I see reference to that in some of the fisher info.=
=0AEnjoy Arthur=0APaul=0A=0A=0AOn Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:10:19 PM, "Lavio=
lette, Lance (EXP)" <lance.laviolette@lmco.com> wrote:=0A=C2=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=
 =0AHi Paul and others, =0A=C2=A0 =0APaul wrote the following concerning th=
e abundance ranking for furbearer harvest 2012-2013 table: =0A=E2=80=9CHow =
these figures are arrived at I have no idea.=E2=80=9D =0A=C2=A0 =0AIf you l=
ook on the =E2=80=98Furharvesters Report Form=E2=80=99, a form that is turn=
ed into DNR annually by furharvesters, you=E2=80=99ll see in the lower righ=
t corner an area for the reporting person to estimate how plentiful a speci=
es is in the locations they trap. Essentially, 0=3Dnone and 4=3DVery High (=
N=3Dno opinion). The numbers in the table you refer to are simply averages =
of these reported estimates of abundance by furharvesters for each county i=
n NS for each species. =0A=C2=A0 =0AIf you look at the numbers for marten a=
nd fishers, since that=E2=80=99s what the original question referred to, yo=
u=E2=80=99ll see that the furharvesters estimates suggest that province-wid=
e, fishers are basically four times more abundant than marten. In Kings Co.=
, fishers are estimated to be about two and one half times as abundant as m=
arten.  =0A=C2=A0 =0ATo give this another comparison, beaver are estimated =
to be about nine times more abundant province-wide than marten. Squirrel ar=
e estimated to be the most abundant furbearing mammal in the province but o=
nly slightly more abundant than beaver. =0A=C2=A0 =0AThe estimates can also=
 be looked at over time. Over the last 25 years the province wide estimates=
 for fishers has tripled and over the last 15 years that of marten has doub=
led. =0A=C2=A0 =0AShould anyone want to look at the tables, the URL is: =0A=
http://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/abundance-rankings.asp =0A=C2=A0 =0AThanks t=
o Mike O=E2=80=99Brien who is the DNR Wildlife Manager, Furbearer and Uplan=
d Game Program, for pointing me in the right direction. =0A=C2=A0 =0AAll th=
e best, =0A=C2=A0 =0ALance =0A=C2=A0 =0AFrom:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Paul MacDonald=0ASent: =
Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM=0ATo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0ASubject: E=
XTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was probable fisher sighting ki=
ngs co ns   =0A=C2=A0 =0AInteresting Angus  =0AAbundance Ranking for Furbea=
rer Harvest 2012 - 2013 (two tables)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 gives a figure of=
 0.29 for marten and 1.13 for fisher. Marten is listed for all counties sav=
e 2 and fisher save 1.  =0AHow these figures are arrived at I have no idea.=
  =0ASo the odds of an unknown small cat sized weasel favors fisher by a go=
od margin. No doubt some will conjure up a cougar from either!   =0AEnjoy t=
he summer  =0APaul  
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
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nt-size:14pt"><div><span>Hi Lance and All</span></div><div><span>This talk =
of Fishers reminds me of the time 20+ years ago in&nbsp; late winter I was =
on a walk on a woods road in Keji when I came across a porcupine skin all n=
eatly wrapped. The flesh side was out with the meat cleaned off and the qui=
lls were pointed in. The whole affair about the size of a football.</span><=
/div><div><span>A friend told me that a fisher had killed and eaten the por=
cupine.&nbsp; I see reference to that in some of the fisher info.</span></d=
iv><div><span>Enjoy Arthur</span></div><div><span>Paul</span></div><div cla=
ss=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D"dis=
play: block;"><div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">On Thursday, July 3, 201=
4 3:10:19 PM, "Laviolette, Lance (EXP)" &lt;lance.laviolette@lmco.com&gt;
 wrote:<br>&nbsp;</font></div><div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Hel=
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1">=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 7=
3, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Hi Paul and others,</span></div> =0A<div class=
=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-si=
ze: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Paul wrote the foll=
owing concerning the abundance ranking for furbearer harvest 2012-2013 tabl=
e:</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=9CHow these figures are arri=
ved at I have no idea.=E2=80=9D</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp=
;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">If you look on the =E2=80=98Furharve=
sters Report Form=E2=80=99, a form that is turned into DNR annually by furh=
arvesters, you=E2=80=99ll see in the lower right corner an area for the=0A =
reporting person to estimate how plentiful a species is in the locations th=
ey trap. Essentially, 0=3Dnone and 4=3DVery High (N=3Dno opinion). The numb=
ers in the table you refer to are simply averages of these reported estimat=
es of abundance by furharvesters for=0A each county in NS for each species.=
</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D=
"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:=
 11pt;">If you look at the numbers for marten and fishers, since that=E2=80=
=99s what the original question referred to, you=E2=80=99ll see that the fu=
rharvesters estimates suggest=0A that province-wide, fishers are basically =
four times more abundant than marten. In Kings Co., fishers are estimated t=
o be about two and one half times as abundant as marten.=0A</span></div> =
=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">To giv=
e this another comparison, beaver are estimated to be about nine times more=
 abundant province-wide than marten. Squirrel are estimated to be the most=
=0A abundant furbearing mammal in the province but only slightly more abund=
ant than beaver.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =
=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125); font-size: 11pt;">The estimates can also be looked at over time. Over=
 the last 25 years the province wide estimates for fishers has tripled and =
over the last 15 years that of=0A marten has doubled.</span></div> =0A<div =
class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); fo=
nt-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Should anyone =
want to look at the tables, the URL is:</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv39=
77078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;=
"><a href=3D"http://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/abundance-rankings.asp" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">http://novascotia.ca/natr/hunt/abundance-ranki=
ngs.asp</a></span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<d=
iv class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);=
 font-size: 11pt;">Thanks to Mike O=E2=80=99Brien who is the DNR Wildlife M=
anager, Furbearer and Upland Game Program, for pointing me in the right dir=
ection.</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div=
 class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); f=
ont-size: 11pt;">All the best,</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> &nbsp;=
</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color=
: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Lance</span></div> =0A<div class=3D"y=
iv3977078837MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 1=
1pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"border-width: 1pt mediu=
m medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) c=
urrentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">=0A<div class=3D"yiv397707=
8837MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 10pt;"> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-ow=
ner@chebucto.ns.ca]=0A<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul MacDonald<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b>=
 Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM<br>=0A<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<=
br>=0A<b>Subject:</b> EXTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] fisher vs marten -- was prob=
able fisher sighting kings co ns</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div cla=
ss=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div> =0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=
=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"col=
or: black; font-size: 14pt;">Interesting Angus</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<di=
v>=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><a =
name=3D"fur2012" id=3D"yiv3977078837fur3" href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow"><span =
style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><b><u><span>Abundance Ranking for =
Furbearer Harvest 2012=0A - 2013 </span></u></b></span></a><span style=3D"c=
olor: black; font-size: 14pt;">(two tables)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; gives a fi=
gure of 0.29 for marten and 1.13 for fisher. Marten is listed for all count=
ies save 2 and fisher save=0A 1.</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div clas=
s=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"co=
lor: black; font-size: 14pt;">How these figures are arrived at I have no id=
ea.</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" =
style=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;"=
>So the odds of an unknown small cat sized weasel favors fisher by a good m=
argin. No doubt some will conjure up a cougar from either!=0A</span></div> =
=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" style=3D"backgrou=
nd: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Enjoy the summer=
</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"yiv3977078837MsoNormal" sty=
le=3D"background: white;"><span style=3D"color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Pa=
ul</span></div> =0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div class=3D"y=
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pan style=3D"color: black;"> &nbsp;</span></div> =0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div=
>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>=
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