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David

Schoeberg said "inside, where the man of instinct begins, there,
fortunately, all theory breaks down."

Peace out.

Jamie Simpson

"
On Jul 2, 2014 10:06 PM, "David & Alison Webster" <dwebster@glinx.com>
wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Whitman" <
> dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com>
> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
>
>  As Dave has implied, the discussion has passed its "best before date".
>> I read all of it and feel that much could be summarized as "it didn't
>> cause any real problems when I was a child." This is quite possibly
>> true but I believe in most cases the point relates to 50-60-70 years
>> ago. There have been great changes in our world since then and we need
>> to deal with it as we see it today.
>>
>
> Hi Rick & All,
>    Thanks, I guess, for setting up another favourite soap box. But first,
> I object to the conclusion that because my memory extends back 75 years my
> comments are 50 years or more out of date.
>
>    Being able to compare conditions over this long a period gives me a
> good background against which to interpret the present and look into the
> future. From a personal point of view I see only one positive in the
> future; I will soon be dead and will not have to watch our tattered
> ecosystems pass through the shredder of successive disruptions.
>
>    At this point I will paste from a previous e-mail--
> START OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
> Hi Randy & All,                            Apr 30, 2013
>    This has been a high-volume topic so I will not try to respond to
> comments from all but instead will back up a step and explain more fully
> the lens through which I see things.
>
>    My lens is 78 1/2 years old, so my memory spans about 75 years. The
> extent of environmental destruction, degradation and fragmentation that has
> taken place during this period is nothing short of staggering. And the rate
> of change is exponential; in the order of 10 times the loss in the last 30
> years as in the previous 45.
>
>    And you may with justification ask; "So what ?"   All this has happened
> in spite of a Conservation Movement in North America that spans at least
> 150 years, Naturalist Societies that span up to 100 (?) years and a more
> activist Environmental Movement that spans 50 years. These movements have
> exercised considerable clout due to the large numbers of votes involved.
>
>    And now it is my turn to ask a question. With all these good people
> doing good works with increasing intensity over time why is the environment
> in tatters ? And remember, for a healthy natural world  only one condition
> is required; a healthy environment.
>
>    I think the environment is in tatters because the primary cause of this
> mess, the internal combustion engine, the private automobile and various
> energy demands that developed as consequences have been accepted from the
> start as positive, progressive and inevitable.
>
>    But unless some way can be found to wean people from this mindless
> pursuit of the horizon, and all the consequences that follow from it, then
> the natural world will hit the wall. Splat. Not picking flowers will not be
> sufficient to avert global warming; already well underway. Nor will it
> bring back to life road kill, bridge impassable barriers to animal
> movement, resurrect dead streams, unfill frog ponds or restore vegetation
> to the huge expanses of pavement.
>
>    And, with this backdrop in view, it is relevant to look at
> demographics, attrition and recruitment. The Hunting & Sport Fishing ranks,
> core Conservation support, are thinning. Attendance at National Parks has
> been in decline for 4 decades (?). Most young people are more interested in
> virtual trees that grow in 5 seconds than they are in real trees that need
> 5 decades just to get started. And practical level-headed people are
> repeatedly turned off by the zany egg-head notions that keep escaping from
> the contemporary version of Pandora's Box. .
>
>    So the really tough problem lies ahead and the political clout of those
> who might wish to do something may be on a downward course. Consequently
> the focus should be on the truly destructive forces, and how to diminish
> them, not on politically correct thought and deed or youth indoctrination.
>
> END OF PASTE\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>
>    All that being said, I commend those who attempt, in one way or
> another, to convey interest in the natural world to the coming generations.
> But "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers:" (or strange ideas) "for
> thereby some have entertained angels unawares."
>
>     I have frequently noticed an unfortunate tendency for professional
> Biologists and 'Genuine Naturalists' to look down on ' the common people'
> as an alien destructive race that can not be trusted. This breeds
> resentment, mainly because it is rarely warranted, and e.g. leads to cheers
> when scientific programs are cut or teminated, especially if the
> environment is involved. So there is much fence mending to be done; at
> ground level; not from a high horse.
>
> Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville
>
>
>
>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">David</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Schoeberg said &quot;inside, where the man of instinct begin=
s, there, fortunately, all theory breaks down.&quot;</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Peace out.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Jamie Simpson</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&quot;</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 2, 2014 10:06 PM, &quot;David &amp; Aliso=
n Webster&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
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escens@gmail.<u></u>com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">nature=
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