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I really do question SSC. There are painted turtles everywhere around
my area, littlerly hundreds within a few kms,=C2=A0never seen so many in
all my life. Now wood turtles used to be the most common but are rarely
seen now, no mention of them on the SSC list.
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I would say it would be best to educate on leaving well enough alone
and to say to child... how would you like it if somebody came and took
you out of our home and put you into a box elsewhere.
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The golden rule truely is golden in teaching all people, not just
children. Mind you, I would not want to have my legs thrown into a
frying pan either. Life is a balancing act. You heard of the farmers
asking for more culling of deer, of course some who=C2=A0don't want the
killing of anything come out of the woodwork, no balance.
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All the best,
Darrell
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:40:58 -0300, Shouty McShoutsalot wrote:
Reading Mr Churchill's original post it was not a Red Eared
Slider. =C2=A0It was an indigenous=C2=A0=C2=A0Eastern Painted Turtle which =
is on
the SSC candidate list of wildlife species that it considers at risk of
extinction or extirpation nationally. =C2=A0So the question remains - does
this list condone removing wild animals from their natural habitat at
the behest of a screaming five year old 'budding naturalist'?
On 24 June 2014 20:23, wrote:
I=C2=A0have a friend in Natural Resourses, he takes children on
education tours at times.
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He was telling me at a certain younger ages the=C2=A0children want to
know every insect, plant, animal=C2=A0and all about them. Then a year or
two=C2=A0later they are=C2=A0nothing but a=C2=A0pain to deal with=C2=A0as a=
ll
they=C2=A0want to do=C2=A0is horse around. I can't remember the exact ages =
but
get them when they are young is the best bet.
=C2=A0
We had a pond behind our house, hours and hours of intertainment,
some not so happy frogs from it. :~) We fried up some legs one day and
older brother came in, what are you cooking, frog legs, can=C2=A0I have
some, sure. Never told him we just but a second batch on and they were
totally raw, What a laugh we had, still chuckle about it when it
crosses my mind.
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All the best,
Darrell
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:45:46 -0700, M gayle Maclean wrote:
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Perhaps the NS Young Naturalists group & their adult leaders,
or the NS Museum Of Natural History, might put together a package that
could be shared with the NS Dept.of Education?
Not sure what age group would be=C2=A0best suited towards, mind you.
Am sure there are many on this list, who could advise or suggest.
Interesting topic, indeed!
Gayle MacLean
Dartmouth
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:17:41 PM, desolatechair wrote:
Budding biologists should learn to observe wild animals in their
natural habitat, no? =C2=A0Do you really condone this behavior?
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-------- Original message --------
From: David & Alison Webster
Date:06-24-2014 6:43 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
Hi John & All,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 June 24, 2014
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You have a point.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Several of us have independently discovered that not hav=
ing a turtle at
home is more fun and less bother than having one at home.=C2=A0 So why shou=
ld
future generations of children, especially if they are budding Biologists,
have ts learn such matters by experience ?
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Some suitable inspirational lectures, starting by the se=
cond trimester,
supplemented by officially sanctioned posters in the Nursery should not onl=
y
confer protection to turtles but snuff out ideas of getting involved in
Biology so that children grow up to do something useful, such as being avid
consumers.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
----- Original Message -----
From: "John and Nhung"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
> Good commentary about the need for kids to be exposed to nature, but as a=
n
> initial part of the exposure, kids need to be told to leave nature where =
it
> sits.
>
> I was acquisitive when I was small, as well, and accumulated quite a
> collection of live amphibians and snakes.=C2=A0 After some of them died, =
despite
> my best attempts, I realized that collecting was not a good idea.=C2=A0 S=
o then I
> kept paper records, instead:=C2=A0 species, colour, length, ... can't rem=
ember
> what else I tabulated, but do remember the biggest garter snake I ever
> caught measured 33 inches from snout to tail!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=
]
> On Behalf Of bev wigney
> Sent: June-24-14 12:00 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
> On 2014-06-24, at 10:23 AM, Fred Schueler wrote:
>
>> * it's hard to see this as bullshit - it's one of the fundamental
>> problems facing naturalists and nature in these latter days. Both kids
>> and society suffer from Nature Appreciation Deficit Disorder, and from
>> the consequences the grotesque exploitation of the Earth by those
>> afflicted with NADD. It's a big part of the job of naturalists to
>> reverse this, and temporarily holding Turtles in captivity is one of
>> the classic ways of communing with nature and getting started with
>> science
>>
>> fred.
>
> * I would like to echo what Fred Schueler has just commented.=C2=A0 While=
I'm
> definitely not advocating that parents should capture painted turtles for
> spoilt children, etc..., I do wonder if there is a natural history educat=
ion
> program available at that site (and others as well).=C2=A0 Being close en=
ough to
> observe small creatures is one way of inspiring interest and empathy for =
the
> natural world.=C2=A0 Some will say, "But there are interpretive signs!"