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Index of Subjects This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CF8F71.3549A910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am in favour of inclusivity and civility, and appreciate the debates = that sometimes surface. =20 From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of cpepper@ymail.com Sent: June-23-14 10:00 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... =20 Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with = before we can remove him from the list? Chris Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoy=E9 sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r=E9seau de = Bell. _____ =20 From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=20 Sender: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300 To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> ReplyTo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... =20 Hi All, June 23, 2014 I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch = basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies especially now when many kids are in love with the latest = game/technology and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips = to be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).=20 =20 Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long = haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns to respect the natural world.=20 =20 Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined = for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect = that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever we = have late floods.=20 =20 John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused = himself by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a high window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild. =20 They hang the man and flog the woman=20 who steals the goose from off the common but let the greater criminal loose who steals the common from the goose. =20 Yt, DW, Kentville =20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John and Nhung <mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... =20 Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing = the title of that Rolling Stones song: =93You can=92t always get what you = want.=94 =20 =20 The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =93No, you can=92t. = [Insert reason.] Get over it.=94 =20 Looks as if a lot of public education is needed. It=92s very troubling = if authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public = reaction. =20 From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of James Churchill Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM To: naturens Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... =20 hi folks,=20 =20 dogs -=20 Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at = the Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in = the water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and = Pied-billed Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other = birds at the periphery of the marsh. =20 Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having = off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on leashes = but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast corner). There = used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been taken down. It is not = fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get another sign up here.=20 =20 turtles -=20 during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that = they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh for = their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to convince = a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that since she = told her child she could have one, and that the child was currently crying = she would just take it anyway. =20 Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some = of the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the = marsh edge. =20 If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along suggestions to DU. =20 =20 cheers,=20 James.=20 =20 --=20 James Churchill Kentville, Nova Scotia jameslchurchill@gmail.com (902) 681-2374 No virus found in this message. 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