[NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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I am in favour of inclusivity and civility, and appreciate the debates =
that
sometimes surface.

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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
On Behalf Of cpepper@ymail.com
Sent: June-23-14 10:00 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with =
before
we can remove him from the list?

Chris

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From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=20

Sender: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300

To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>

ReplyTo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20

Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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Hi All,                        June 23, 2014

    I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous
enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch =
basis'
then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies
especially now when many kids are in love with the latest =
game/technology
and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips =
to
be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).=20

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    Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long =
haul
be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns to
respect the natural world.=20

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    Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as
more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined =
for
sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect =
that
many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever we =
have
late floods.=20

=20

 John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused =
himself by
throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a high
window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild.

=20

They hang the man and flog the woman=20

who steals the goose from off the common

 but let the greater criminal loose

 who steals the common from the goose.

=20

Yt, DW, Kentville

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From: John and Nhung <mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =20

To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20

Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM

Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing =
the
title of that Rolling Stones song:  =93You can=92t always get what you =
want.=94 =20

=20

The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =93No, you can=92t.  =
[Insert
reason.]  Get over it.=94

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Looks as if a lot of public education is needed.  It=92s very troubling =
if
authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public =
reaction.

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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
On Behalf Of James Churchill
Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM
To: naturens
Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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hi folks,=20

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dogs -=20

Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at =
the
Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in =
the
water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and =
Pied-billed
Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other =
birds at
the periphery of the marsh.

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Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having =
off-leash
dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on leashes =
but
it is around the back near the private drive (northeast corner). There =
used
to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been taken down. It is not =
fun
to remind people of this and can elicit strong emotions from some people
when confronted about it. DU is working to get another sign up here.=20

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turtles -=20

during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that =
they
have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh for =
their
children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to convince =
a
lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that since she =
told
her child she could have one, and that the child was currently crying =
she
would just take it anyway.

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Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some =
of
the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the =
marsh
edge.

=20

If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along
suggestions to DU. =20

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cheers,=20

James.=20

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James Churchill
Kentville, Nova Scotia
jameslchurchill@gmail.com
(902) 681-2374



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