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Dave is one of the more broadly knowledgeable and thoughtful contributors on this network, and even his more pungent comments are usually worth reading. If we must choose as suggested, I'd vote for more spice and less Pepper.
Steve, Hfx
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on behalf of Annabelle Thiebaux [hamst@xplornet.com]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 10:42 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
I enjoy them too Doug [Richard].
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On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com<mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
People may not agree with many of David's posts, and I suspect he might post some stuff just for the sake of being controversial, or to initiate discussion, but actually I usually enjoy reading them. There are others who sometimes post in a similar vein. I don't think disagreeing with the contents of a post, or many posts, would be grounds for removing someone, as long as that person is not rude, demeaning or insulting to other members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or David)?
Richard
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <cpepper@ymail.com<mailto:cpepper@ymail.com>> wrote:
Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with before we can remove him from the list?
Chris
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From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com<mailto:dwebster@glinx.com>>
Sender: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300
To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>>
ReplyTo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
Hi All, June 23, 2014
I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies especially now when many kids are in love with the latest game/technology and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips to be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).
Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns to respect the natural world.
Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever we have late floods.
John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused himself by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a high window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild.
They hang the man and flog the woman
who steals the goose from off the common
but let the greater criminal loose
who steals the common from the goose.
Yt, DW, Kentville
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From: John and Nhung<mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing the title of that Rolling Stones song: “You can’t always get what you want.”
The appropriate response for a parent to make is, “No, you can’t. [Insert reason.] Get over it.”
Looks as if a lot of public education is needed. It’s very troubling if authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public reaction.
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>] On Behalf Of James Churchill
Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM
To: naturens
Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
hi folks,
dogs -
Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at the Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in the water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and Pied-billed Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other birds at the periphery of the marsh.
Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get another sign up here.
turtles -
during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh for their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was currently crying she would just take it anyway.
Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some of the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the marsh edge.
If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along suggestions to DU.
cheers,
James.
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