[NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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From: Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 22:36:22 -0300
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Hi,

People may not agree with many of David's posts, and I suspect he might
post some stuff just for the sake of being controversial, or to initiate
discussion, but actually I usually enjoy reading them. There are others who
sometimes post in a similar vein. I don't think disagreeing with the
contents of a post, or many posts,  would be grounds for removing someone,
as long as that person is not rude, demeaning  or insulting to other
members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or David)?

Richard


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <cpepper@ymail.com> wrote:

>  Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with
> before we can remove him from the list?
>
> Chris
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
> Envoy=C3=A9 sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r=C3=A9sea=
u de Bell.
> ------------------------------
> *From: * David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
> *Sender: * naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Date: *Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300
> *To: *<naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *ReplyTo: * naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject: *Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
> Hi All,                        June 23, 2014
>     I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous
> enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch basis=
'
> then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies
> especially now when many kids are in love with the latest game/technology
> and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips t=
o
> be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).
>
>     Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long
> haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns
> to respect the natural world.
>
>     Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as
> more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined
> for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect
> that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever
> we have late floods.
>
>  John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused himself
> by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a hig=
h
> window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild.
>
> They hang the man and flog the woman
> who steals the goose from off the common
>  but let the greater criminal loose
>  who steals the common from the goose.
>
> Yt, DW, Kentville
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
>  Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing
> the title of that Rolling Stones song:  =E2=80=9CYou can=E2=80=99t always=
 get what you
> want.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =E2=80=9CNo, you can=E2=
=80=99t.  [Insert
> reason.]  Get over it.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> Looks as if a lot of public education is needed.  It=E2=80=99s very troub=
ling if
> authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public reacti=
on.
>
>
>
> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *James Churchill
> *Sent:* June-23-14 9:36 AM
> *To:* naturens
> *Subject:* [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
>
>
> hi folks,
>
>
>
> dogs -
>
> Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at th=
e
> Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in the
> water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and Pied-billed
> Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other birds
> at the periphery of the marsh.
>
>
>
> Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having
> off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on
> leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast
> corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been
> taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong
> emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get
> another sign up here.
>
>
>
> turtles -
>
> during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that
> they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh f=
or
> their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to
> convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that
> since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was
> currently crying she would just take it anyway.
>
>
>
> Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some of
> the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the
> marsh edge.
>
>
>
> If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along
> suggestions to DU.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> James.
>
>
>
> --
>
> James Churchill
> Kentville, Nova Scotia
> jameslchurchill@gmail.com
> (902) 681-2374
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br>People may not agree with many of David&#3=
9;s posts, and I suspect he might post some stuff just for the sake of bein=
g controversial, or to initiate discussion, but actually I usually enjoy re=
ading them. There are others who sometimes post in a similar vein. I don&#3=
9;t think disagreeing with the contents of a post, or many posts,=C2=A0 wou=
ld be grounds for removing someone, as long as that person is not rude, dem=
eaning=C2=A0 or insulting to other members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or Da=
vid)?<br>

<br></div>Richard<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:cpepper@ym