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bnQ9InRl --001a11c23fc6e3828504fc8afd71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, People may not agree with many of David's posts, and I suspect he might post some stuff just for the sake of being controversial, or to initiate discussion, but actually I usually enjoy reading them. There are others who sometimes post in a similar vein. I don't think disagreeing with the contents of a post, or many posts, would be grounds for removing someone, as long as that person is not rude, demeaning or insulting to other members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or David)? Richard On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <cpepper@ymail.com> wrote: > Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with > before we can remove him from the list? > > Chris > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. > Envoy=C3=A9 sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r=C3=A9sea= u de Bell. > ------------------------------ > *From: * David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> > *Sender: * naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca > *Date: *Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300 > *To: *<naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> > *ReplyTo: * naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Subject: *Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > Hi All, June 23, 2014 > I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous > enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch basis= ' > then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies > especially now when many kids are in love with the latest game/technology > and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips t= o > be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home). > > Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long > haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns > to respect the natural world. > > Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as > more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined > for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect > that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever > we have late floods. > > John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused himself > by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a hig= h > window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild. > > They hang the man and flog the woman > who steals the goose from off the common > but let the greater criminal loose > who steals the common from the goose. > > Yt, DW, Kentville > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM > *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing > the title of that Rolling Stones song: =E2=80=9CYou can=E2=80=99t always= get what you > want.=E2=80=9D > > > > The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =E2=80=9CNo, you can=E2= =80=99t. [Insert > reason.] Get over it.=E2=80=9D > > > > Looks as if a lot of public education is needed. It=E2=80=99s very troub= ling if > authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public reacti= on. > > > > *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: > naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *James Churchill > *Sent:* June-23-14 9:36 AM > *To:* naturens > *Subject:* [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... > > > > hi folks, > > > > dogs - > > Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at th= e > Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in the > water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and Pied-billed > Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other birds > at the periphery of the marsh. > > > > Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having > off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on > leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast > corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been > taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong > emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get > another sign up here. > > > > turtles - > > during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that > they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh f= or > their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to > convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that > since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was > currently crying she would just take it anyway. > > > > Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some of > the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the > marsh edge. > > > > If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along > suggestions to DU. > > > > cheers, > > James. > > > > -- > > James Churchill > Kentville, Nova Scotia > jameslchurchill@gmail.com > (902) 681-2374 > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3972/7708 - Release Date: 06/19/14 > > --=20 ################# Dr.R.B.Stern, P.O. Box 300, Port Williams, N.S., Canada, B0P 1T0 Richard Stern, Port Williams, NS, Canada sternrichard@gmail.com ################### --001a11c23fc6e3828504fc8afd71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,<br><br>People may not agree with many of David= 9;s posts, and I suspect he might post some stuff just for the sake of bein= g controversial, or to initiate discussion, but actually I usually enjoy re= ading them. There are others who sometimes post in a similar vein. I don= 9;t think disagreeing with the contents of a post, or many posts,=C2=A0 wou= ld be grounds for removing someone, as long as that person is not rude, dem= eaning=C2=A0 or insulting to other members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or Da= vid)?<br> <br></div>Richard<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D= "gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h= ref=3D"mailto:cpepper@ym