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Ducks, Mallards and Pied-bi This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_A0BB_01CF8F28.67B7B430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, June 23, 2014 I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous = enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch = basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This = applies especially now when many kids are in love with the latest = game/technology and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in = 30 second clips to be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).=20 Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long = haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby = learns to respect the natural world.=20 Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as = more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined = for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I = suspect that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea = whenever we have late floods.=20 John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused = himself by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out = of a high window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he = was wild. They hang the man and flog the woman=20 who steals the goose from off the common but let the greater criminal loose who steals the common from the goose. Yt, DW, Kentville =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John and Nhung=20 To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing = the title of that Rolling Stones song: "You can't always get what you = want." =20 =20 The appropriate response for a parent to make is, "No, you can't. = [Insert reason.] Get over it." =20 Looks as if a lot of public education is needed. It's very troubling = if authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public = reaction. =20 From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca = [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of James Churchill Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM To: naturens Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... =20 hi folks,=20 =20 dogs -=20 Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at = the Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks = in the water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and = Pied-billed Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young = of other birds at the periphery of the marsh. =20 Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having = off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets = on leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast = corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been = taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong = emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get = another sign up here.=20 =20 turtles -=20 during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that = they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh = for their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying = to convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded = that since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was = currently crying she would just take it anyway. =20 Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some = of the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from = the marsh edge. =20 If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass = along suggestions to DU. =20 =20 cheers,=20 James.=20 =20 --=20 James Churchill Kentville, Nova Scotia jameslchurchill@gmail.com (902) 681-2374 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3972/7708 - Release Date: = 06/19/14 ------=_NextPart_000_A0BB_01CF8F28.67B7B430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =3D=20 "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m =3D=20 "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23588"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page WordSection1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt = 72.0pt; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: = 12pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: = 12pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: = 12pt } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-type: = personal-reply } .MsoChpDefault { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-style-type: export-only; = mso-fareast-language: EN-US } DIV.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1 } </STYLE> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD> <BODY lang=3DEN-CA link=3Dblue bgColor=3D#ffffff vLink=3Dpurple> <DIV>Hi All, =20 June 23, = 2014</DIV> <DIV> I have a problem with over zealous regulation = and over=20 zealous enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't = touch=20 basis' then protection may be complete but of short duration. This = applies=20 especially now when many kids are in love with the latest = game/technology and=20 bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips to = be=20 enjoyed in the comfo