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ies=E2=80=99 populations status (done by COSEWIC using po --_000_DE25F93C24BF447D97BDA2A15316B5F9dalca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Helene, Good question. I would read up on the issue (google bat emergency assessmen= t and you=92ll find tons) and then write the federal Minister of the Enviro= nment. I suspect they=92d reply that they=92ve been consulting the public a= nd will have a listing soon, but that still leaves one wondering what's the= point of an emergency assessment if it still takes ages to get these anima= ls actually listed =97 which is needed to trigger the recovery end of thing= s (identifying critical habitat, etc). Cheers, Andy On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Helene Van Doninck <helene.birdvet@gmail.com<= mailto:helene.birdvet@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for this Andy...any way we can pester to influence the bat listing? Helene Helene Van Doninck DVM Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre Join us on May 10 for our Sixth Annual Fundraising Concert and Silent Aucti= on<http://cwrc.net/cms/wp/?page_id=3D785> RR#1 Brookfield NS B0N1C0 902-893-0253 helene.birdvet@gmail.com<mailto:birdvet@hotmail.com> www.cwrc.net<http://www.cwrc.net/> Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobequid-Wildlife-Rehabi= litation-Centre/134671693239334> and Twitter<https://twitter.com/CobequiWil= dlife> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Andrew Horn <aghorn@dal.ca<mailto:aghorn@= dal.ca>> wrote: Hi Dusan et al., Marty=92s the chair of COSEWIC. The CBC piece got it right. There=92s vario= us things that aren=92t ideal with Canada=92s Species at Risk Act (SARA), b= ut one good thing is that the assessment of a species=92 populations status= (done by COSEWIC using population size, distribution, trends, threats, etc= ) is kept separate from its listing (done by the government, which takes no= t just the status assessment but also economic and social factors into acco= unt). As it happens, COSEWIC is meeting in Halifax next week. Anyone who wants to= sit in as an observer and see the assessments in action can email Marty (m= leonard@dal.ca<mailto:mleonard@dal.ca>). I think I know the problems Fred r= efers to, but overall the people on the committee are extremely good and de= dicated, and the quality of the status reports that they base their decisio= ns on (the reports that summarize all the available info on population size= , trends, threats, etc) have actually improved since SARA. I reckon the weaker links in SARA are at the listing stage (e.g., still no = listing of our bats years after COSEWIC=92s emergency assessment) and (as m= any environmental groups have noted) the recovery stage (which is a totally= separate process again =97 and overwhelmed and poorly funded). Full disclosure: I=92ve written several status reports and, of course, my s= pouse just happens to be chair of COSEWIC. Cheers, Andy Horn On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Dusan Soudek <soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca<mailto:s= oudekd@ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote: > Halifax's (and Dalhousie's) own Dr. Marty Leonard was on CBC TV's The N= ational last night, and she seemed to be OK with the recent reclassificatio= n of the status of humpback whales. Unfortunately the interview was far, fa= r too short. What is her exact position with COSEWIC? Andy? > Dusan Soudek > > > > On April 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca<mailto:bckc= db@istar.ca>> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2014-04-23, at 6:38 AM, Richard Stern wrote: > > > > > >> From The Globe and Mail: > > >> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/why-is-the-hu= mpback-only-special-now-that-gateway-beckons/article18113453/ > > > > * evidently this is just following a COSEWIC reclassification of the > > species - though it's hard to imagine that any of the great Whales > > could be anything less than Special Concern. I don't know anything > > about the COSEWIC Mammal subcommittee, but I've heard from people on > > the Herps and Mollusc subcommittees that since the Species at Risk Act > > has come in there's been various bureaucratic pressures on the > > personnel that tend to dissuade dedicated folks from serving, and the > > process of bidding on reports - rather than inflicting them on the > > person who knows the species best - must compromise the quality of the > > reports, even if it gets them finished more promptly. Someone in the > > press should look into the status of COSEWIC in the SARA era. > > > > fred. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad > > Bishops Mills Natural History Centre - http://pinicola.ca/bmnhc.htm > > Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm > > Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/ > > South Nation Basin Art & Science Book > > http://pinicola.ca/books/SNR_book.htm > > RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0 > > on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W > > (613)258-3107<tel:%28613%29258-3107> <bckcdb at istar.ca<http://istar.c= a/>> http://pinicola.ca/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > --_000_DE25F93C24BF447D97BDA2A15316B5F9dalca_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <28DD9D152F4BA045A86C68B0F9484F60@namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-lin= e-break: after-white-space;"> Hi Helene, <div><br> </div> <div>Good question. I would read up on the issue (google bat emergency= assessment and you=92ll find tons) and then write the federal Minister of = the Environment. I suspect they=92d reply that they=92ve been consulting th= e public and will have a listing soon, but that still leaves one wondering what's the point of an emergency assessmen= t if it still takes ages to get these animals actually listed =97 which is = needed to trigger the recovery end of things (identifying critical habitat,= etc).</div> <div><br> </div> <div>Cheers,</div> <div>Andy</div> <div><br> <div> <div>On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Helene Van Doninck <<a href=3D"mailto= :helene.birdvet@gmail.com">helene.birdvet@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <div>Thanks for this Andy...any way we can pester to influence the bat list= ing?<br> <br> </div> Helene<br> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Helene Van Doninck DVM<br> Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre<br> Join us on May 10 for our <a href=3D"http://cwrc.net/cms/wp/?page_id=3D785"= target=3D"_blank"> Sixth Annual Fundraising Concert and Silent Auction</a><br> RR#1 Brookfield NS B0N1C0<br> 902-893-0253<br> <a href=3D"mailto:birdvet@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">helene.birdvet@gma= il.com</a><br> www.cwrc.net <div> <div>Find us on <a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobequid-Wildlife= -Rehabilitation-Centre/134671693239334" target=3D"_blank"> Facebook</a> and <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/CobequiWildlife" targe= t=3D"_blank">Twitter</a></div> </div> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Andrew Horn <s= pan dir=3D"ltr"> <aghorn@dal.ca>= ;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Dusan et al.,<br> <br> Marty=92s the chair of COSEWIC. The CBC piece got it right. There=92s vario= us things that aren=92t ideal with Canada=92s Species at Risk Act (SARA), b= ut one good thing is that the assessment of a species=92 populations status= (done by COSEWIC using population size, distribution, trends, threats, etc) is kept separate from its listing (done by the gover= nment, which takes not just the status assessment but also economic and soc= ial factors into account).<br> <br> As it happens, COSEWIC is meeting in Halifax next week. Anyone who wants to= sit in as an observer and see the assessments in action can email Marty (<= a href=3D"mailto:mleonard@dal.ca">mleonard@dal.ca</a>). I think I know the = problems Fred refers to, but overall the people on the committee are extremely good and dedicated, and the qual= ity of the status reports that they base their decisions on (the reports th= at summarize all the available info on population size, trends, threats, et= c) have actually improved since SARA.<br> <br> I reckon the weaker links in SARA are at the listing stage (e.g., still no = listing of our bats years after COSEWIC=92s emergency assessment) and (as m= any environmental groups have noted) the recovery stage (which is a totally= separate process again =97 and overwhelmed and poorly funded).<br> <br> Full disclosure: I=92ve written several status reports and, of course, my s= pouse just happens to be chair of COSEWIC.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> Andy Horn<br> <br> On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Dusan Soudek <<a href=3D"mailto:soudekd@ns.= sympatico.ca">soudekd@ns.sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > Halifax's (and Dalhousie's) own Dr. Marty Leonard was on CBC TV= 's The National last night, and she seemed to be OK with the recent reclass= ification of the status of humpback whales. Unfortunately the interview was= far, far too short. What is her exact position with COSEWIC? Andy?<br> > Dusan Soudek<br> ><br> ><br> > > On April 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM Fred Schueler <<a href=3D"mailto:= bckcdb@istar.ca">bckcdb@istar.ca</a>> wrote:<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > > On 2014-04-23, at 6:38 AM, Richard Stern wrote:<br> > > ><br> > > >> From The Globe and Mail:<br> > > >> <a href=3D"http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/e= ditorials/why-is-the-humpback-only-special-now-that-gateway-beckons/article= 18113453/" target=3D"_blank"> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/editorials/why-is-the-humpback-= only-special-now-that-gateway-beckons/article18113453/</a><br> > ><br> > > * evidently this is just following a COSEWIC reclassification of = the<br> > > species - though it's hard to imagine that any of the great Whale= s<br> > > could be anything less than Special Concern. I don't know anythin= g<br> > > about the COSEWIC Mammal subcommittee, but I've heard from people= on<br> > > the Herps and Mollusc subcommittees that since the Species at Ris= k Act<br> > > has come in there's been various bureaucratic pressures on the<br= > > > personnel that tend to dissuade dedicated folks from serving, and= the<br> > > process of bidding on reports - rather than inflicting them on th= e<br> > > person who knows the species best - must compromise the quality o= f the<br> > > reports, even if it gets them finished more promptly. Someone in = the<br> > > press should look into the status of COSEWIC in the SARA era.<br> > ><br> > > fred.<br> > > ------------------------------------------------------------<br> > > Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad<br> > > Bishops Mills Natural History Centre - <a href=3D"http://pinicola= .ca/bmnhc.htm" target=3D"_blank"> http://pinicola.ca/bmnhc.htm</a><br> > > Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - <a href=3D"http://pinicola.ca/mu= dpup1.htm" target=3D"_blank"> http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm</a><br> > > Daily Paintings - <a href=3D"http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspo= t.com/" target=3D"_blank"> http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/</a><br> > > South Nation Basin Art & Science Book<br> > > <a href=3D"http://pinicola.ca/books/SNR_book.htm" target=3D"_blan= k">http://pinicola.ca/books/SNR_book.htm</a><br> > > RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario, Canada K0G 1T0<br> > > on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W<br> > > <a href=3D"tel:%28613%29258-3107" value=3D"+16132583107">(613= )258-3107</a> <bckcdb at istar.ca> <a href=3D"= http://pinicola.ca/" target=3D"_blank"> http://pinicola.ca/</a><br> > > ------------------------------------------------------------<br> > ><br> > ><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_DE25F93C24BF447D97BDA2A15316B5F9dalca_--
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