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styl This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01CF50EE.3B031510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim & All, Apr 5, 2014 Thanks for the reminder about this Jim. Will view it by computer on = CBC one of these days. But I think the account of the Mammoths is viewed throught the wrong = end of the telescope.=20 No doubt good old humans have done a great job of destroying things = in the last 60 years, and have had some impact in the previous 50,000 or = so, but anyone who has hunted or comprehends predator-prey relationships = will know that stone age hunters did not exterminate Mammoths and other = Pleistocene mammals. Then as now habitat determines survival.=20 And it takes a leap of blind faith to imagine that subtracting = Mammoths will cause grassland to change to boggy tundra. At about this = same time the grassland habitat of the Hairy Mammoth also became boggy = as many intact specimens, swallowed by the bog, testify.=20 It seems clear, at least superficially, that climate change = triggered the widespread extinctions and this is consistent with the = change of grassland to boggy tundra, presumably triggered by greater = ppt. relative to evapotranspiration. Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James W. Wolford=20 To: NatureNS=20 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:26 AM Subject: [NatureNS] re Wild Canada, The Nature of Things last Thurs. = eve. Subject: [ValleyNature] re Wild Canada, The Nature of Things last = Thurs. eve. <snip> The show mentioned that just after the last glaciers, mammoths kept = the ground and vegetation as a vast grassland. Then came good old = humans to change things, as they always do, here by destroying the = mammoths and other Pleistocene mammals and helping to change the = grassland into boggy tundra with different plants, which only caribou = can deal with in large numbers. _______________________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7197 - Release Date: = 03/14/14 ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01CF50EE.3B031510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.23569"> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY=20 style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"=20 bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Jim & All, = =20 = =20 Apr 5, 2014</DIV> <DIV> Thanks for the reminder about this Jim. = Will view=20 it by computer on CBC one of these days.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> But I think the account of the Mammoths is = viewed=20 throught the wrong end of the telescope. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> No doubt good old humans have done a great job = of=20 destroying things in the last 60 years, and have had some impact in the = previous=20 50,000 or so, but anyone who has hunted or comprehends predator-prey=20 relationships will know that stone age hunters did not = exterminate Mammoths=20 and other Pleistocene mammals. Then as now habitat determines = survival.=20 </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> And it takes a leap of blind faith to imagine = that=20 subtracting Mammoths will cause grassland to change to boggy tundra. At = about=20 this same time the grassland habitat of the Hairy Mammoth also became = boggy as=20 many intact specimens, swallowed by the bog, testify. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> It seems clear, at least superficially, that = climate=20 change triggered the widespread extinctions and this is consistent with = the=20 change of grassland to boggy tundra, presumably triggered by greater = ppt.=20 relative to evapotranspiration.</DIV> <DIV>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; = PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20 dir=3Dltr> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Djimwolford@eastlink.ca = href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca">James W.=20 Wolford</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20 href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">NatureNS</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 15, 2014 = 2:26=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] re Wild = Canada, The=20 Nature of Things last Thurs. eve.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica; = COLOR: #000000"=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: = </B></FONT><FONT=20 style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" size=3D3 = face=3DHelvetica><B>[ValleyNature] re Wild=20 Canada, The Nature of Things last Thurs. eve.</B></FONT></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px"><snip><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 16px Helvetica" = size=3D5=20 face=3DHelvetica>The show mentioned that just after the last = glaciers,=20 mammoths kept the ground and vegetation as a vast grassland. = Then came=20 good old humans to change things, as they always do, here by = destroying the=20 mammoths and other Pleistocene mammals and helping to change the = grassland=20 into boggy tundra with different plants, which only caribou can deal = with in=20 large numbers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"MARGIN: = 0px">_______________________________________________</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></= DIV><BR><A></A> <P align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000" avgcert??>No virus found in this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2014.0.4336 / = Virus=20 Database: 3722/7197 - Release Date: = 03/14/14</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01CF50EE.3B031510--
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