[NatureNS] re Nesting & Flocking Ravens Status in NS

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Earlier this week I checked on a Burnside site that I often visit during =
the nesting season. Storms have brought the nest down in the last 2 =
winters. Last year it was completely rebuilt by March 11 but there are =
no signs of repairs so far this year. Egg laying at this location was =
normally late March with the hatch coming in mid April and fledge in mid =
to late May.
My notes from May 1st last year " The young are now quite vocal, =
responding whenever one of the adults comes into view". They were at =
that point almost 2 weeks old with open eyes, I suppose vocalizations =
could have begun earlier in response to sounds and movement around the =
nest.



Kevin Lantz

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From: James W. Wolford=20
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:24 PM
To: NatureNS=20
Subject: [NatureNS] re Nesting & Flocking Ravens Status in NS


  Subject: [ValleyNature] re Nesting & Flocking Common Ravens Status in =
NS

  I have a few quick comments on ravens from the notes below:=20

  (1) I think Ken's report of hearing young ravens in mid-April is too =
early -- the earliest date I recall for that in the tropical Annapolis =
Valley was about May 11, many years ago, on the Acadia Univ. campus.
  (2) Reports of large numbers of ravens together in loose flocks, a =
common phenomenon at certain times of year at Grand Pre and west of =
Canning, are very probably all juvenile to yearling ravens, too young to =
be reproducing but quite possibly already paired up via their =
entertaining courtship activities, especially aerially.  Check out Bernd =
Heinrich's two books on ravens for some very interesting reading.
  (3) All across Canada the raven has changed from being a symbol of =
real wilderness and has become much more commonnear and inside towns, as =
well as choosing nest-sites right in towns and not just in trees but =
in/on human-made structures like barns, bridges, etc.  Of course, here =
in Nova Scotia, especially the Valley, we have been used to ravens close =
to communities for several decades.

  Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.


  Begin forwarded message:


    From: Shouty McShoutsalot <desolatechair@gmail.com>
    Date: March 12, 2014 12:18:42 PM ADT
    To: naturens <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
    Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Nesting Common Ravens Status in NS
    Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca

    Randy that's what I saw Monday as well, that clued me into the nest =
location.



    On 12 March 2014 11:39, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:

      Interesting timing for this thread; I had a raven fly over my very =
rural home this morning with a stick in its beak.=20

      Randy

      _________________________________
      RF Lauff
      Way in the boonies of
      Antigonish County, NS.



      On 12 March 2014 11:19, David McCorquodale <dbmcc09@gmail.com> =
wrote:

        There are several Common Raven nests in the Sydney area each =
year that are in high traffic areas.  For years there was a nest on the =
recently demolished Sydney River Bridge.  They moved more than ten years =
ago to a nearby road overpass.  For many years Simon Gillis has reported =
on a raven nest in Whitney Pier.  For a few years there was a nest in a =
big White Poplar, just off Prince St. in a very busy commercial district =
of Sydney.  Neighbouring towns such as Glace Bay and North Sydney also =
have nesting ravens.=20


        =20
        The Maritimes Breeding Bird Atlas shows confirmed nesting in =
most urban areas of NS.  I will second Ken=92s suggestion to read Tufts =
on ravens (or any other bird in NS).


        =20
        DBMcC



        David McCorquodale=20
        Georges River, NS



        On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ken McKenna =
<kenmcken@eastlink.ca> wrote:


          Ken McKenna
          Box 218 Stellarton NS
          B0K 1S0
          902 752-7644

          Hi Jamie
          I am no expert on Common Raven nesting, but have seen several =
nests in the past and now is about right for Ravens to be on nests. I =
have heard young birds calling from nests while scouting owl route roads =
for drivability for owl surveys in mid-April.=20
          By the way I counted about 280 Ravens in the vicinity of the =
Bayview area near Pictou on Feb 17. I think it was the most Ravens I =
ever saw in one place. There were only 50 Eagles there at the time, but =
at times counts of 100+ are not unusual. Iceland Gulls seem common here =
as well at times with counts of over 100. Great Black-backed Gulls are =
also common but for some reason, I have only seen handfuls or less of =
Herring Gulls. Amazing what cattle innards will attract.=20
          Good write-up in Tuft's Birds of Nova Scotia on Common Ravens. =


          cheers
          Ken

          ----- Original Message -----=20
            From: Shouty McShoutsalot=20
            To: naturens=20
            Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:14 AM
            Subject: [NatureNS] Nesting Northern Ravens Status in NS

            For the last week I've watched a pair of Northern Ravens =
build and occupy a nest on a electrical transmission tower west of exit =
2A (Upper Sackville) off Highway 101.=20

            I've often watched and enjoyed their courtship behavior in =
the past - one of my favourite early signs that winter is waning  - but =
I've never actually seen Ravens nest before and I was wondering if =
anyone knows has any info on frequency and/or general info on Ravens in =
NS.

            Thanks,


            --=20

            Jamie Simpson

            Hantsport, NS







    --=20

    Jamie Simpson

    Hantsport, NS


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  Nesting &amp; Flocking Common Ravens Status in NS</B></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px">&nbsp;</DIV>I have a few =
quick=20
  comments on ravens from the notes below:=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>(1) I think Ken's report of hearing young ravens in mid-April is =
too=20
  early -- the earliest date I recall for that in the tropical Annapolis =
Valley=20
  was about May 11, many years ago, on the Acadia Univ. campus.</DIV>
  <DIV>(2) Reports of large numbers of ravens together in loose flocks, =
a common=20
  phenomenon at certain times of year at Grand Pre and west of Canning, =
are very=20
  probably all juvenile to yearling ravens, too young to be reproducing =
but=20
  quite possibly already paired up via their entertaining courtship =
activities,=20
  especially aerially.&nbsp; Check out Bernd Heinrich's two books on =
ravens for=20
  some very interesting reading.</DIV>
  <DIV>(3) All across Canada the raven has changed from being a symbol =
of real=20
  wilderness and has become much more commonnear and inside towns, as =
well as=20
  choosing nest-sites right in towns and not just in trees but in/on =
human-made=20
  structures like barns, bridges, etc.&nbsp; Of course, here in Nova =
Scotia,=20
  especially the Valley, we have been used to ravens close to =
communities for=20
  several decades.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.<BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR =
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT: 12px =
helvetica"=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>Shouty =
McShoutsalot=20
    &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com">desolatechair@gmail.com</A>&gt;</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT: 12px =
helvetica"=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>March 12, =
2014 12:18:42=20
    PM ADT</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT: 12px =
helvetica"=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica>naturens =
&lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A>&gt;</=
FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT: 12px =
helvetica"=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Subject: =
</B></FONT><FONT=20
    style=3D"FONT: 12px helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Re: =
[NatureNS] Nesting=20
    Common Ravens Status in NS</B></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #000000; FONT: 12px =
helvetica"=20
    color=3D#000000 size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><B>Reply-To: =
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    style=3D"FONT: 12px helvetica" size=3D3 face=3DHelvetica><A=20
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    <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px; MIN-HEIGHT: 14px">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Randy that's what I saw Monday as well, that clued me =
into the=20
    nest location.</DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On 12 March 2014 11:39, Randy Lauff <SPAN=20
    dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>randy.lauff@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
    style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: =
#ccc 1px solid">
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>Interesting timing for this thread; I had a raven =
fly over my=20
      very rural home this morning with a stick in its beak.=20
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Randy</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>_________________________________<BR>RF Lauff<BR>Way in the =
boonies=20
      of<BR>Antigonish County, NS.</DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>
      <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On 12 March 2014 11:19, David =
McCorquodale <SPAN=20
      dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:dbmcc09@gmail.com"=20
      target=3D_blank>dbmcc09@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
      style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
        <DIV dir=3Dltr>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal>There are several Common Raven nests in the =
Sydney=20
        area each year that are in high traffic areas.&nbsp; For years =
there was=20
        a nest on the recently demolished Sydney River Bridge.&nbsp; =
They moved=20
        more than ten years ago to a nearby road overpass.&nbsp; For =
many years=20
        Simon Gillis has reported on a raven nest in Whitney Pier.&nbsp; =
For a=20
        few years there was a nest in a big White Poplar, just off =
Prince St. in=20
        a very busy commercial district of Sydney.&nbsp; Neighbouring =
towns such=20
        as Glace Bay and North Sydney also have nesting ravens. </P>
        <DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-placeholder>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal>The Maritimes Breeding Bird Atlas shows =
confirmed=20
        nesting in most urban areas of NS.&nbsp; I will second Ken=92s =
suggestion=20
        to read Tufts on ravens (or any other bird in NS).</P>
        <DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-placeholder>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <P class=3DMsoNormal>DBMcC</P><SPAN><FONT=20
        color=3D#888888></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><SPAN><FONT color=3D#888888><BR =
clear=3Dall>
        <DIV>
        <DIV dir=3Dltr>David McCorquodale=20
        <DIV>Georges River, NS</DIV></DIV></DIV></FONT></SPAN>
        <DIV>
        <DIV><BR><BR>
        <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Ken =
McKenna=20
        <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca"=20
        target=3D_blank>kenmcken@eastlink.ca</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
        <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
        style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><U></U>
          <DIV bgcolor=3D"#ffffff">
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Ken McKenna<BR>Box 218 Stellarton NS<BR>B0K 1S0<BR><A=20
          href=3D"tel:902%20752-7644" target=3D_blank =
value=3D"+19027527644">902=20
          752-7644</A><BR></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Hi Jamie</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>I am no expert on Common Raven =
nesting, but have=20
          seen several nests in the past and now is about right for =
Ravens to be=20
          on nests. I have heard young birds calling from nests while =
scouting=20
          owl route roads for drivability for owl surveys in mid-April.=20
          </FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>By the way I counted about =
<STRONG>280</STRONG>=20
          Ravens in the vicinity of the Bayview area near Pictou on Feb =
17. I=20
          think it was the most Ravens I ever saw in one place. There =
were only=20
          50 Eagles there at the time, but at times counts of 100+ are =
not=20
          unusual. Iceland Gulls seem common here as well at times with =
counts=20
          of over 100. Great Black-backed Gulls are also common but for =
some=20
          reason, I have only seen handfuls or less of Herring Gulls. =
Amazing=20
          what cattle innards will attract. </FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Good write-up in Tuft's Birds of Nova =
Scotia on=20
          Common Ravens. </FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>cheers</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ken</FONT></DIV>
          <DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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            <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt =
arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
            title=3Ddesolatechair@gmail.com =
href=3D"mailto:desolatechair@gmail.com"=20
            target=3D_blank>Shouty McShoutsalot</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
            title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca"=20
            target=3D_blank>naturens</A> </DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, =
March 12, 2014=20
            10:14 AM</DIV>
            <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] =
Nesting=20
            Northern Ravens Status in NS</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV dir=3Dltr>For the last week I've watched a pair of =
Northern=20
            Ravens build and occupy a nest on a electrical transmission =
tower=20
            west of exit 2A (Upper Sackville) off Highway 101.=20
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>I've often watched and enjoyed their courtship behavior =
in the=20
            past - one of my favourite early signs that winter is =
waning&nbsp; -=20
            but I've never actually seen Ravens nest before and I was =
wondering=20
            if anyone knows has any info on frequency and/or general =
info on=20
            Ravens in NS.</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>Thanks,<SPAN><FONT color=3D#888888><BR clear=3Dall>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>-- <BR>
            <DIV dir=3Dltr>
            <DIV>Jamie Simpson<BR></DIV>Hantsport,=20
            =
NS<BR></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></D=
IV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR =
clear=3Dall>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>-- <BR>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>
    <DIV>Jamie Simpson<BR></DIV>Hantsport, =
NS<BR></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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